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  1. #1
    Player
    Valknut's Avatar
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    Agni Highwind
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90

    Its exactly like every DRK thought.

    From reddit all creddit to Paikis

    "This started as a sort of 'DRK can't be that bad surely' and now that I'm done I figured I'd share the numbers. Feel free to tell me if you see anything wrong here.

    I have around 70,000 HP on my tanks and seem to get about 1,250 HP per 100 potency, so I'll work with those numbers. I'm also going to assume single target. Skills that have 90 second cooldowns will have their potencies reduced to 66%.

    Dark Knight: 2,000 ppm healing // 1,400 ppm shielding per use of TBN.
    Paladin: 4,650 ppm healing // 560 ppm shielding
    GNB: 4,360 ppm healing // 1,000 ppm shielding
    WAR: 8,360 ppm healing // 1,520 ppm shielding
    War, as expected has ridiculous amounts of healing, but I didn't expect it to also have the most amount of shielding. With it potentially being a 21% shield instead of just 15%, it can be even better than listed here. Assuming DRK isn't gimping their DPS by moving MP out of raid buffs by using more than 1 TBN, they have the lowest healing potency by far and only second for shielding potency.

    I'm not going to compare Damage Reduction here, but Dark Mind and Dark Missionary both being magic-only really restricts DRK on what it can do. The tiny DPS advantage just doesn't seem like it's worth the massive deficit in actually tanking things."

    https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...ute_for_tanks/

    DRK mains rejoice, you are not crazy!

    If you don't like those number you can always use these as well GNB/DRK same boat

    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...unt&dataset=99
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    Last edited by Valknut; 12-27-2021 at 02:13 AM.

  2. #2
    Player
    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Character
    Nova' Dragon
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 92
    When you see Warrior has more barrier than TBN, and near double of healing than GNB/PLD, more healing than DRK/PLD put together, or DRK/GNB put together, you know it's super broken.
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  3. #3
    Player
    Valknut's Avatar
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    Agni Highwind
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Well you can argue DRK could get 1400x4 for a PPM for shielding, but where are you going to break TBN reliably 4 times in one min

    But yeah, warrior is certainly setting a new bar for what it means to be broken.
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  4. #4
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    From this data, we all can say DRK needs some serious help in the healing category. Either double it so it's at 4K or take it to 3.5K. Either is way preferable.
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  5. #5
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    playing other games like yoshida intended
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    Character
    Alondite Ragnell
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Still funny to me that EW decided that DRK's self healing needed to be nerfed by putting Drain and CS on the same cooldown.
    Not that reverting this would fix the situation at all.
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  6. #6
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Character
    Kalaam Nozalys
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Someone has to have a grudge against dark knight or their initial designer at this point. xD
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  7. #7
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    Character
    Derio Uzumaki
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Thats the scary part. Are they going to buff the other tanks or are they going to nerf WAR.
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  8. #8
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Character
    Mute Shellback
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Someone has to have a grudge against dark knight or their initial designer at this point. xD
    considering all three jobs from HW are nothing like they were then now?

    Safe bet.
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  9. #9
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Thats the scary part. Are they going to buff the other tanks or are they going to nerf WAR.
    Probably nerf WAR's healing. I'd probably just drop Bloodwhetting and Nascent Flash down to 300 cure potency, and then the HoT on Equilibrium (why does it even have one when it could have been given to DRK!?) to 100 cure potency.
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    Last edited by RyuDragnier; 12-27-2021 at 10:47 AM.

  10. #10
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Character
    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    WAR is my go to tank since they can't seem to get DRK right (or at least it always feels off when playing it), and when I got Sirensong sea as WAR (18k hp approximately) and each hit of raw intuition was giving me 3k+ hp, I thought to myself "This is broken".

    Where's my full aoe heal unleash.
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