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    Future jobs speculation: Mystic/Rune Knight thread

    Call it Mystic Knight, Rune Knight, Judge or Spell Fencer

    Hi.
    So, with the announcement of the Reaper the argument of redundancy or overlap between job concepts flew out of the window. The team can add any job they want and make it unique. One could have argued that Reaper would just be "DRK dps" and henceforth wouldn't happen since it'd step onto the Dark Knight's lawn, but nope. Reaper is here and he's here to stay in all its edgy glory.

    So no more argument that a Mystic Knight, Rune Fencer, etc wouldn't be possible because it's too similar to Red Mage but melee, or that Paladin already has a physical and magical rotation. It could even be inspired by XI's Red Mage and Rune Fencer like Reaper got some inspiration from XI's Dark Knight from what I understood.

    Let's just share the love for this job and its concept !

    What would you like from it ? What makes you want this job ?


    What weapon do you think it would use ?


    Which armor set would it wear ?


    What would its gameplay be like ?


    Which NPC could represent it ?And why it's Alisaie



    Let's speculate freely and have fun, wether this topic is read by the devs or not, wether it's for 7.0 or 14.0, we are here to have fun thinking about our favorite jobs !
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    Last edited by Kalaam; 05-16-2021 at 03:28 AM.

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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    IDK but I hope it's a tank because oh man this glam would look FIRE on a Mystic/Rune Knight

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    I'm honestly a bit tired of sword jobs being tanks xD Or barely using their sword (red mage).
    I'm sure that if it happened it'd be a pretty cool job, but I just feel like it'd be more at home as a dps, rotating between different "En-"spell buffs etc.
    Great glam' tho'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Or barely using their sword (red mage).
    But we use it every time we cast spells. We just don't *stab* people with it outside melee combo. :P
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    Yeah true, we use it (as a staff).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    I'm honestly a bit tired of sword jobs being tanks xD Or barely using their sword (red mage).
    *Gestures vaguely at SAM.* Though, admittedly, RDM swords are just sharp-edged wands that apparently take 50+ gauge to fortify enough to hit anyone with.

    On the larger topic at hand, I feel like any Mystic/Rune Knight would need a serious dose of lore identity to differentiate itself at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    *Gestures vaguely at SAM.* Though, admittedly, RDM swords are just sharp-edged wands that apparently take 50+ gauge to fortify enough to hit anyone with.

    On the larger topic at hand, I feel like any Mystic/Rune Knight would need a serious dose of lore identity to differentiate itself at this point.
    I mean more general swords than just katanas. Samurai is very specific.

    I don't think lore identity would be much of an issue honestly, if we can get "angry farmers made a pact with demons" to have a DPS dark knight FF11 brought to FF14, there is tons of way to have a lore around Mystic Knights.

    Be it elite soldiers equipped with alchemically enhanced weapons in thavnair, made to channel aether at an optimal ratio to cast the spells at the same time, or other stuff from either Meracydia or other liberated regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    I mean more general swords than just katanas. Samurai is very specific.
    Katanas are no more specific than a messer, a longsword, a broadsword, an arming sword, a dao, a curtana, a tulwar, a scimitar, a rapier, or any other form of sword. (Heck, katana originally just meant "sword", unlike more specific terms like a ninto, wakazashi, dachi, etc.)

    That said, if we're to give MSK a sword even while Paladin remains the "everything else" among one-handed swords, we're going to need another iconic blade at least as iconic as RDM's rapier/epee/tuck and SAM's katana/tulwar/etc.

    Sidenote: If we're to make the MSK concept a Scouting class, a Thavnairian "Dervish" seems a decent fit. Otherwise, MSK definitely seems to lend itself more to the above-average armor of Maiming.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-02-2022 at 05:57 PM.

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    For some reason they really don't want to give proper sword to DPS. And maiming set is already out of the question.
    Its not entirely unlikely to get rune fencer for scouting set, but it would have to be non-heavy armor variant. So basically spellblade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cetek14 View Post
    For some reason they really don't want to give proper sword to DPS. And maiming set is already out of the question.
    Its not entirely unlikely to get rune fencer for scouting set, but it would have to be non-heavy armor variant. So basically spellblade.
    I think it could be maiming still. The armor set doesn't really mean anything regarding the role of the job without the group, it's still a melee DPS.
    I could see something close to Bravely Default's Spell fencer as a striking set for example.
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