The Devs need to put THUDERCLAP without target

[HappyHubris]

Are people with controllers really trying to hyper-optimize, though? If they were they would probably switch to KB/M.

[ty_taurus]

Are people with controllers really trying to hyper-optimize, though? If they were they would probably switch to KB/M.

I play on controller on PS4 and I'm always trying to get better at optimization. My main job is Dancer, but I've also been doing a lot of Sage (who also has a Thunderclap equivalent) and was a healer main prior to the gutting of Scholar in Shadowbringers. I can say that single-target casting on controller is not hard--it just takes practice. You need to think ahead a bit and be aware of who's where so that you can use it properly at the right moment.

For me I find KB/M extremely disconnecting from the immersion of the game and have 0 interest in ever transitioning to it, and I've been around the block for plenty of savage content. Even managed to clear T9 on PS3 back during ARR.

[HappyHubris]

I can say that single-target casting on controller is not hard--it just takes practice. You need to think ahead a bit and be aware of who's where so that you can use it properly at the right moment.

Right, so you're not optimizing. You're accepting an inferior control scheme that creates additional hurdles.

[ty_taurus]

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Right, so you're not optimizing. You're accepting an inferior control scheme that creates additional hurdles.

Way to string a narrative out of what I said. If you do it correctly, that is optimizing. I know a mechanic is coming, and I look for the ranged party members heading to a safe spot. I tell myself that during my next cast, I'll be targeting that ally which makes it easy for me to both target them and weave in Icarus without clipping my GCD, and it's done. It's not a hurdle, it's just how I've learned to play the game.

Can we stop with the control elitism? It doesn't make you a better player or a better person because you play on a keyboard. No one's giving you a medal. Controller players and Clickers have every right to enjoy the game as much as you do without having to hear about how inferior we are to you.