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    BasicBlake's Avatar
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    Basic Blake
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Well they did just bring back a character who was previously a DoW and is now a DoM. A nice helping of placeholder spells to go along with it, taking place in an arena very tied to a support caster job in the game. With us just getting Sage, them coming back as another healer is pretty unlikely.
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    ServantNaoya's Avatar
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    Rat Wildheart
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    For me, Puppet Master is the new caster I want most, complete with the puppet as a damage dealing pet, and with dark spells and lots of DoTs. But Squeenix seems to hate DoTs and pets, so I doubt that'll ever happen.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I have a completely unfounded suspicion that maybe they simply find DoTs, or maybe more specifically the snapshotting, troublesome to balance around. Either the DoTs are weak to balance against all the raid buffs or whatever, which might suck in solo play or dungeons or something. Or they're good on their own which makes them overpowered in larger groups.

    But, like I said, completely unfounded, I don't know much about much of that end.
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  4. #14
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I've never liked DoTs and with how their procs for songs have been removed from BRD I expect BRD to loose theirs next expansion. That said I fully anticipate Geomancer being a DoT based job.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I doubt we'd get another DoT class, due to them consistently removing DoTs. They cause problems when there's too many of them up at once (BA, DRS, hunts).

    Plus my pick for a 4th mage would be Geomancer, and I don't think they'd fit a DoT mage system. More ground based and channelled spells.
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  6. #16
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    Basic Blake
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I doubt we'd get another DoT class, due to them consistently removing DoTs. They cause problems when there's too many of them up at once (BA, DRS, hunts).

    Plus my pick for a 4th mage would be Geomancer, and I don't think they'd fit a DoT mage system. More ground based and channelled spells.
    That would definitely go along with the npc they put in this expansion
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ServantNaoya View Post
    For me, Puppet Master is the new caster I want most, complete with the puppet as a damage dealing pet, and with dark spells and lots of DoTs. But Squeenix seems to hate DoTs and pets, so I doubt that'll ever happen.
    I would much rather see Puppet Master as a Tank actually. Now, yes, SE does hate pets (and especially tank pets), but Puppet Master doesn't have to be a pet job. The puppet can just be the weapon used by the job and a part of the animations and not necessarily an entity separate from the player.

    With this mindset, you create the illusion of a tanking pet very easily, and I think you could play around with PUP's invuln ability in a really creative way. Imagine that you spend a percentage of your HP to place your puppet in a stationary location, transfer your aggro to the puppet, and the puppet's health is equal to the HP you spent to summon it. Your attacks emanate from the puppet rather than you while in this state, and you take no damage until the duration expires, or the puppet's HP hits 0, which would end your invuln early. When the puppet despawns, the aggro returns to you. You get the concept of the pet in a highly controlled fashion. It might be more than SE would be willing to create in this specific action as an example, but I feel like it wouldn't actually break their rules at all.
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    A dot mage makes the most sense since summoner is no longer one. People who enjoy dots no longer have one since summoner was taken from them.
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    Hugo Narigo
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    1.) Rework Blue Mage
    2.) A Close Ranged Caster Mystic Knight
    3.) Druid or Weather Mage
    4.) A Space-Time Caster
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    Last edited by Narigo1; 12-28-2021 at 03:33 PM.

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    Anacrusys Halestorm
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Here is a great dot mage they could use some of the concepts and make it their own. Scroll down to see spell descriptions. Affliction lock has 3-4 dots depending on if you take the siphon life talent, and you can explode one of them (corruption) with seed to AOE spread it like bane. The design is engaging and lots of fun to play. I like the soul shard builder spender system as well. The Agony Dot gives you chances to generate soul shards so the more mobs you dot with agony the faster you get shards to spend. Like the old BRD dots but it’s resource not a proc.


    https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/afflic...-spell-summary
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    Last edited by Anacrusys; 01-04-2022 at 01:23 PM.

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