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    Adelx's Avatar
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    Adelia Soul
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 90

    Suggestion for new caster

    Hello Wol
    Since we lost old summoner with dots and bard now not dealing with dots like before ( no proc ) so i would ask SE to add a new dots mage.

    I dunno if my voice will reach to them but this play style ( dots ) had a alot of fans who loves this style in old FFXIV days and other MMORPGs.

    we miss this style after summoner changed .. so here what we have for casters :

    1- black mage : long cast time and heavy damage. ( 1 dot )

    2- Summoner : Summon and take their power + high mobility and utility and Rez. ( 0 dot )

    3- Red mage : half caster and half melee + Utility and Rez. ( 0 dot )

    So My humble suggestion is :
    4- dots mage : 2-3 dots , have a cast time and ofc a unique idea for it because the dots won’t be the main damage and idea all time.


    This post for poor souls who lost something was enjoying it in game.
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    Tulzscha's Avatar
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    Tulzscha Abbith
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I am eagerly awaiting the day FFXIV gains a dedicated dot-focused caster. Until that day I lack hope, but one can always dream.
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    Void Mage Job Concept: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/469993-New-Job-Idea-Void-Mage-v.2

    Witch Doctor Job Concept: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/445597-Job-Concept-Green-Mage

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    Adelia Soul
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    Good posts and yeah we can dream ..

    I really lost the desire to play more those day and worry they will just add another simple caster with no dots …
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    Cassandria Everfree
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 90
    I would support a dot mage simply to protect the future of Summoner from returning to that dark place.
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    Klifur Yadai
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I wouldn't mind an DoT mage. The question is what mage can fit that bill. Unless they want to add a brand new job to the franchise, I don't think there's a mage that deals exclusively in DoTs.
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    Ichi Exorz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I'd like to see a dot based mage. Not sure what job. Maybe Necromancer but they'd be like old summoner. Undead pets with dots slapped on it. Idk what other class would fit a dot playstyle.
    But other than a dot class i'd rather see a time mage or something.
    Not sure how it would work as a dps job since time magic is generally more supportive i suppose.
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    Al'rethi Gale
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    SMN was the DOT mage. If they turned summoner into the most boring possible class just to give the DOTs to another shiny class.....Well, I'll be a little pissed. Not to mention, I think it's unlikely anyways.

    They seem to be removing DOT gameplay. SMN was completely gutted. BRD was made so much less reliant on using them at all. They could have designed something to lead into these DOTs more smoothly, but they didn't. Seems to indicate a certain mindset in their balancing.
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    It's pretty early to be talking about new jobs in the future, lol, but I'm a nerd for theorycrafting so why not?

    As it stands, it seems likely that the next time we get a new job, it will be a caster of some sort. We can't guarantee that, but it seems to fit the pattern. With that in mind, there are a few different ideas that I've had regarding this:

    Option A: Unlimited Blue Mage
    If BLU gets updated in the same fashion as how it was handled during Shadowbringers, then it would catch up with level 90 around 6.4, and it's entirely possible they could set up some type of "ascension" style content that lets you evolve Blue Mage into an unlimited job as a Caster DPS. The caveat here is that they would not have any spell customization. Instead, we would undergo some sort of 'spell refinement' process that changes a handful of spells from their gimmicky nature into something that flows like any of the other casters.

    Perhaps they could retain a very small amount of customization, such as letting you choose which offensive spell animations you prefer for your single target or AoE spells without actually changing the potency. Perhaps you could choose between your type of AoE (Circle, line, point-blank, etc.), but that would likely be the extent of your customization ability for unlimited BLU. The thing though for me is that unlimited BLU seems more like it would make sense as a utility caster with Angel Whisper, and other forms of healing and support, where the open slot for an official 4th caster would make more sense for a more selfish caster to contest with BLM. I feel like this is a natural progression of the limited job system eventually, but I'm not sure if SE actually cares to ever make BLU anything more than a gimmick.

    Option B: Geomancer
    GEO is a job that we've known about for quite some time, though largely as a healer. Since we just now got Sage, it will be a very long time before we ever see another healer (if we ever see another healer). GEO is one of the last couple classic Final Fantasy jobs that's still missing from FFXIV, so it may be that we end up seeing some kind of group of GEOs that are different from the ones seen in Kugane.

    Option C: Diviner/Onmyoji
    On the topic of Kugane, I wonder if we might see some kind eastern magic job in the future. This idea came more with thinking about other weapon categories that could fit within the caster archetype, and one that I think would have a lot of visual distinction would be paper talismans. I also feel like a job like this would thematically be a great starting point for them to reapproach the concept of a DoT mage in a new concept that isn't fighting any other styles like the internal battle SMN always had prior to Endwalker. With no preconceived idea of what the job should be, they can fully embrace the DoT aspect in a way that they might've always been afraid to do with SMN or even BRD (which, while many might not like it, is waving death flags around its DoTs as of Endwalker). It's entirely possible that they may purge BRD of its DoTs as well and pave the open path for full-on DoT mage such as this concept.

    Option D: Pictomancer
    Another idea for what other mage-type jobs we could see might be a painting mage. While it's not a staple Final Fantasy job, it is an archetype that Relm from FF6 fulfilled. Much like how Squall paved the way for Gunbreaker to be added, perhaps a caster wielding a large paint brush could also be a consideration. Much like the concept of how Onmyoji (or OMY) might be a DoT mage, I think PIC might have a similar potential as well and it a little less unfamiliar to the Final Fantasy brand than OMY would be.
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    Last edited by ty_taurus; 12-27-2021 at 08:25 AM.

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    Videra Svenay
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 83
    I'd rather quite like a Divine Light themed dot-based caster. Or Unlimited BLU.
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    Sofiija Sky
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 82
    I really want a DoT Mage. Preferably Green Mage. It would be nice for Green Mage/Magic to be fleshed out more, and FFXIV could very easily do it. The support side of it would obviously be easy to figure out. Being designed from the ground up to deal Damage over Time with DoT consumes, spreads, DoT procs.

    I also just want to collect all the colors...
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