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  1. #1
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    Monknoob1217's Avatar
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    Gala Valis
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 90

    Dark Knight Sustain/QoL needs to be addressed.

    I hate to be that guy but this is the only way SE will ever listen, by spamming forums about the job. Dark Knight has had too many outstanding issues that are more glaring than the other tanks. While all jobs have some gameplay issues, Dark is one of the most apparent jobs riddled with issues.

    1. LD sucks. Its not 20seconds, its at most 11s. 1s from the time you die + 9s~ to get fully healed. People die all the time to this ability and its usually not their fault. Why do we get punished for doing the correct thing? Why do we get punished for doing something the other tanks get to do with no repercussion.

    2. BW sucks. Its literally not 10s its like 9.5 seconds. Not sure how devs have disregarded this for so long just because JP has better ping. Its stupid, obnoxious, and barely relates to skill. This is the incorrect way of introducing higher skillcap. Ive literally had IRL friends tell me they have no issues hitting 5 gcds and then I check in Xivanalysis to confirm that they missed over 7 gcds in BW.

    3. Self-Sustain is far far worse than the other tanks. GNB has two auroras + brutal shell on 2nd gcd + HoC. Their sustain is simply better because their mitigation is also better. Warrior I dont even have to explain. PLD can basically fully heal themselves with clemency/holy spirit even if clemency should never be used ideally.

    4. TBN while the math checks out to be approximately equal in mitigation to other tanks, the other tank cooldowns they got/got upgraded are significantly better due to having no downsides/no punishing features. Make TBN 25s and no mana and its fine.

    I dont really care about the other issues the job has because these are the most obnoxious things that need addressing.
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    Shini Mas
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Square only reads JP forums, so don't bother.
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    Xrison's Avatar
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    Xrison Wyvernscale
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    Famfrit
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinimas View Post
    Square only reads JP forums, so don't bother.
    Time to dust off Google translate and make a post over there then.
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Even the JP forum complains about Dark Knight's current state btw
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    Fatal Fatalis
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    Louisoix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Don't worry guys, in 7.0, they will give us enhanced Plunge, and the job will be saved.
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    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Even the JP forum complains about Dark Knight's current state btw
    Summoner was taking a lot of complaints with it's pet system, memes aside I know they'll rework Dark Knight, eventually, I don't know when.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  7. #7
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    Xrison Wyvernscale
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    Famfrit
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    Summoner was taking a lot of complaints with it's pet system, memes aside I know they'll rework Dark Knight, eventually, I don't know when.
    I mean, they sort of HAVE to, right? There's no way the devs can look at all 4 tanks and think "Yeah. This is nice and balanced.'
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Course not man, It's very possible for reworks to arrive on big patch days.

    Despite my posts on these forums, Dark Knight does need a rework of it's abilities. Unmend+, Living Shadow+ are literally filler.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Xrison View Post
    Time to dust off Google translate and make a post over there then.
    The irony is someone did this once with regards to the rampant botting present in Stormblood PvP (I think that was the context—it was related to PvP), and the JP forum CMs told the person to go post on their respective region’s subforum.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post4606598

    Maybe you’d have more luck since it’s job design versus PvP content on NA servers (I don’t know if botting was ever an issue on the JP servers), but the developers really, really like making DRK’s identity revolve around TBN. I don’t know how much they’d budge on it, but there is hope if the JP community takes issue with current DRK design.

    I don’t know about LD, because I’ve heard JP really likes the design of it.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 12-26-2021 at 05:13 AM. Reason: Added link
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Character
    Alondite Ragnell
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Living Dead's design isn't so much of a problem, the issue is that Dark Knight itself cannot even hope to remotely sustain it. You press the button, pray your healer can deal with it, and if they cant you die. There is nothing you can do to help them save get off 1 or two soul eaters that won't even contribute 5% of your total HP.
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