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    Duskane's Avatar
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    honestly just want some potency buffs here and there
    either third eye last 5 second to be a little more comfy to use
    or just rework it into swift cast+kaiten skill for SAM
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    either third eye last 5 second to be a little more comfy to use
    That would kind of defeat the point of being a precisely timed defensive, no?
    or just rework it into swift cast+kaiten skill for SAM
    What in the what now? A free alt-Kaiten available every 15 seconds would be both broken and convoluted, all while again defeating the point of being rewarded for awareness of the timing of raid damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    That would kind of defeat the point of being a precisely timed defensive, no?

    What in the what now? A free alt-Kaiten available every 15 seconds would be both broken and convoluted, all while again defeating the point of being rewarded for awareness of the timing of raid damage.
    I'm not advocating that we tie Third Eye into Kaiten at all, but Third Eye just doesn't feel good to use. Latency can screw you out of actually parrying anything, and with Seigan gone it feels like we've been left with half a skill that's only there because "hey look, Sekiro parry button." FFXIV isn't an action combat game, trying to make it play like one for one job for thematic reasons just isn't working. It was bad enough when Merciful Eyes got nerfed so hard that everyone took it off their bars. We could've kept Seigan as a transforming button like Ogi Namikiri/Kaeshi Namikiri is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric_Thorne View Post
    I'm not advocating that we tie Third Eye into Kaiten at all, but Third Eye just doesn't feel good to use.
    I'd have to disagree. I don't think a single extra second of duration would kill what's satisfying to me about the skill, but it's relatively sharp timing and the versatile reward does, to me, make it feel quite good to use.

    Latency can screw you out of actually parrying anything, and with Seigan gone it feels like we've been left with half a skill that's only there because "hey look, Sekiro parry button."
    Having played around 180 ms for quite a while, it's always seemed that latency never shortened duration, only forced you to cast earlier. Your skill will start later, but also therefore last until later.

    We could've kept Seigan as a transforming button like Ogi Namikiri/Kaeshi Namikiri is now.
    Which would then mean you have no AoE spending option for Third Eye's reward unless Seigan were reworked to a cleave, which would still leave slightly less agency than just letting you spend its reward towards any Kenki skill of your chooosing (Kaiten, Shinten, Kyuten, Guren, or Senei).
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