Square Enix is running out of ideas for raids

[ArchlordPie]

I used to learn how to play classes in ARR by doing what I called a coil roulette. You just queued for the 4 most recent coils as people used to actually use the queue for this. A lot of japanese servers will use the queue for savage content currently. Problem is in the NA / EU servers no one uses it because we tend to want to gate keep what classes can join, what ilvl they have to be (typically set way higher than needed) and also to prevent new players from joining farm party / weekly clear party ect. Party finder is nothing more than a glorified gate keeping mechanic in actuality. NA / EU player base is actually pretty toxic it just tends to hide itself well.

The other guy already got the part where you're blatantly lying about your "coil roulette" so I'm just gonna cover the Raid Finder VS Party Finder deal.

NA/EU do use Party Finder because they're more toxic than JPN, but that's because NA/EU are filled with tons of players that, if Raid Finder were the only option, would queue up for "Duty Completion" while completely blind and expect to be carried. JPN players actually understand that "Practice" and "Duty Completion" mean two different things and that if you aren't ready for Duty Completion (in NA/EU terms, this means "I've wiped to the hard enrage"), you do NOT queue up for Duty Completion. NA/EU players don't care about that distinction and think it's 100% OK to trap parties and expect experienced players to carry them. Combine this with the fact that you don't get replacement players if you votekick someone from a Raid Finder instance and you wind up with NA/EU relying on Party Finder instead of Raid Finder. It is to gatekeep, but the people we want to gatekeep are the people who shouldn't be in the same party as us anyway.

If I've wiped to enrage on a boss and I know the whole fight and I want a clear, I have every right to host a party where the standard for entry is that you've wiped to enrage and know the whole fight and want a clear. I'm not trying to keep the new guy from experiencing content. I'm just trying to fill the party with 7 other players at the same experience level as me. The new guy needs to host or join a fresh prog party and learn the fight from scratch, the exact same way I did at first. If he wipes to enrage and I'm still trying to get my clear, then he's more than welcome in my group. But not before that.

It's amazing how so many people take the existence of clear parties personally...

[IdowhatIwant]

The other guy already got the part where you're blatantly lying about your "coil roulette" so I'm just gonna cover the Raid Finder VS Party Finder deal.

When was blatently lying? You were always able to queue for the previous coil fights once the next section came out. Maybe most stating "most recent coils misrepresented" what I meant, but it technically would be the most recent coils you could queue for in the duty finder.