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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Yeah i’ve noticed this too. Despite making so much money they’ve been cutting a lot of corners and the fact we aren’t seeing many unique mechs in this raid series so far is pretty telling.Also doesnt even have any voice acting. P4 is just Halicarnassus rehashed. P3 is just Suzaku etc. Also seeing a ton of reused gear etc. It’s all so boring but i don’t see them changing the formula sadly since a majority of the community will eat up any little scrap the devs feed to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Yeah i’ve noticed this too. Despite making so much money they’ve been cutting a lot of corners and the fact we aren’t seeing many unique mechs in this raid series so far is pretty telling.Also doesnt even have any voice acting. P4 is just Halicarnassus rehashed. P3 is just Suzaku etc. Also seeing a ton of reused gear etc. It’s all so boring but i don’t see them changing the formula sadly since a majority of the community will eat up any little scrap the devs feed to them.
    It's still too early to judge the difficulty and mechanics as in savage they are always vastly different. The mechanics in normal are just a guideline with training wheels for stuff that happens without tells in savage among other things. In other words it's meant to be easily clearable by pople who just want to see the story.
    That's why I've been judging the music mostly because thats something that doesn't change and I'm really not a fan this time around.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 12-30-2021 at 03:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Do miss the weird hidden/niche things in raid fights, kill adds, fast, slow, certain order, or do something around the environment and boss gets harder or changes in some way, you unlock a special buff, or straight up unlocks a secert boss kind of deal...
    They got rid of several bind/slow skills too. Remember in A3S you had to slow the adds otherwise you couldn't kill them all. YoshiP has bad memories of that fight almost decimating the savage community because of the low clear rates, and this led them going to down to the difficulty that started with Alexander Creator Savage. Everything has been similar difficulty since. He commented they were happy with the clear rates and that was the difficulty they would land on for all future raids.

    Sleep was a thing in BA for some mobs so they don't enrage on the alliances, I kind of wish they bring those back so that skill gets used outside of solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    They got rid of several bind/slow skills too. Remember in A3S you had to slow the adds otherwise you couldn't kill them all. YoshiP has bad memories of that fight almost decimating the savage community because of the low clear rates, and this led them going to down to the difficulty that started with Alexander Creator Savage. Everything has been similar difficulty since. He commented they were happy with the clear rates and that was the difficulty they would land on for all future raids.

    Sleep was a thing in BA for some mobs so they don't enrage on the alliances, I kind of wish they bring those back so that skill gets used outside of solo.
    True it's kinda sad that they removed that stuff in the future raids, I have fond memories of Melusine Savage in ARR where you needed to apply slow/bind on the Ricardos.
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    Why haven't we fought on a star platform? Seems kind of obvious... and like it might lend itself to interesting mechanics..... did I miss it?
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    It's still too early to judge the diffulty and mechanics as in savage they are always vastly different. The mechanics in normal are just a guideline with training wheels for stuff that happens without tells in savage among other things. In other words it's meant to be easily clearable by pople who just want to see the story.
    That's why I've been judging the music mostly because thats something that doesn't change and I'm really not a fan this time around.
    I mean we can judge savage but that’s separate from normal raids. The normal raids themselves should still be accounted for as that’s still content most people are going to run. They’re still the same boring arena designs with the same reused mechs. Look at phantom train in stormblood. Even the normal version had unique mechs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonwitch View Post
    I haven’t even unlocked the first 90 set yet.
    I don’t feel compelled to try them in any way. It’s like, ok, queue into a square or circle platform.

    There is no corridors of discovery like Alexander.

    Maybe the whole game has lost its flavor on me after 2 years. Bless the people who’ve been around since launch . Idk how they do it
    is getting more tiresome with every patch, but if you dare to say something about it then the white knights appear to say stupid shit about how this is the best game on the planet, you are a egoistical pos because you want new gear/models for every patch and that yoshida is the messiah that came to save our reality with ps2 graphics and potato servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonwitch View Post

    Maybe the whole game has lost its flavor on me after 2 years. Bless the people who’ve been around since launch . Idk how they do it
    Having a group of friends to clear all the content helps to keep me engaged. I'm still having fun in the raids, it doesn't have many gimmicks but to me gimmicks become annoying after the 2nd or 3rd time tbh. They are only fun the first time and become a chore after, maybe thats why I favor FFXIV raids over WoWs raids. The difficulty is still fun especially Ultimate raids.
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