Square Enix is running out of ideas for raids

[GarretStrongstaf]

I really hope Square Enix tries harder on creating variety for raids.

Now that Savage is out...

I've seen half of P3S and I watched the P4S clear PoVs from my FC. It's still just not that interesting.

Your post would be more impactful if you

1. At least gave some examples on how raids could made "less stale."
2. Expressed in some way that you have been successful in "Savage" or "Ultimate" content.

Coils had "variety" but there were complaints about that structure from raiders so it was shifted in 3.0. What makes savage engaging are the mechanics, not a new gimmicky set piece. The battle system in FFXIV is deep and the "simple" Square/Circle design allows that system to shine. Some players want to push their knowledge of their kits to the max, not press some random button only available in one fight for one purpose. Thats what the MSQ is for.

More casual content, like EX trials, normal modes, end game dungeons, and alliance raids, those all have elements beyond a "square" or "circle" boss stage and that is likely where this "spice of life" of yours will remain.

[Skiros]

Your post would be more impactful if you

1. At least gave some examples on how raids could made "less stale."
2. Expressed in some way that you have been successful in "Savage" or "Ultimate" content.

Coils had "variety" but there were complaints about that structure from raiders so it was shifted in 3.0. What makes savage engaging are the mechanics, not a new gimmicky set piece. The battle system in FFXIV is deep and the "simple" Square/Circle design allows that system to shine. Some players want to push their knowledge of their kits to the max, not press some random button only available in one fight for one purpose. Thats what the MSQ is for.

More casual content, like EX trials, normal modes, end game dungeons, and alliance raids, those all have elements beyond a "square" or "circle" boss stage and that is likely where this "spice of life" of yours will remain.

- Jobs have been dumbed down so much that it takes zero effort to "push their knowledge of their kits to max" on like 80% of the jobs.
- I truly don't care that much about square or circle boss arenas. The examples that I've listed of Titan or Halicarnassus are both square arenas. The fact that you've fixated on this irrelevant point shows you have no understanding of what makes a raid tier memorable.
- Why do I need to express that I'm successful? What? What does that have to do with Savage lacking creativity? My static is halfway through P3S in 5 hours of progression. That should be enough to convince anyone who knows what they're talking about that I know what I'm talking about. I don't care to dredge up a laundry list of my clears.

[GarretStrongstaf]

The fact that you've fixated on this irrelevant point shows you have no understanding of what makes a raid tier memorable.

This is a weak argument. Experience in savage and ultimates is most relevant if you are going to critque them, especially so harshly, and with no proposed solutions.

Additionally. I've been raiding since 2.2. My raiders and I have lots of great memories. I also don't hide mine. My memories are out in the open for the world to see

[Skiros]

This is a weak argument. Experience in savage and ultimates is most relevant if you are going to critque them, especially so harshly, and with no proposed solutions.

Additionally. I've been raiding since 2.2. My raiders and I have lots of great memories. I also don't hide mine. My memories are out in the open for the world to see

Yeah OK, you can easily find my main by looking up my FC. Look up my logs if you want. I think it's weird that someone with no Ultimate clears or have not cleared the last tier in its entirety is trying to gatekeep me though. Very weird.

Also, I never hid my logs so I'm even more confused by what you're trying to imply. This is an alt.

[van_arn]

I don’t think Square will ever run out of ideas as long as they have players.

[OM3GA-Z3RO]

Maybe they should make raids like actual raids like they used to in Coils and Alexander and not make them Glorified Mini-Trials.

[Makeda]

Now that savage is out we will see how good the fight design is. Normal mode is always kind of simple.

As for the plot of the new dungeon. So far I'm very 'meh' on it. But I was feeling even worse about BOTH Omega and Eden at this point, yet thought Alexander was great... by the end I found Eden and Omega to be amazing stories and Alexander had barely any more plot to it than Heaven on High... Completely forgetable.

So I will judge the plot somewhere in the third patch.

And I'll have to defer fight judgement to others because I lack the time to raid this tier and won't get to see savage until way past when it's on farm...

[hynaku]

Instead of them bringing out savage they should have brought out alliance raid. I thought Yoshi said they wasn't going to bring out savage or ultimate and work on content.

[van_arn]

Instead of them bringing out savage they should have brought out alliance raid. I thought Yoshi said they wasn't going to bring out savage or ultimate and work on content.

What. They always save the alliance as the tentpole feature of .1

[RatKing]

Everything in this game is optional, your point? Why would you get mad if people wanna complete shit? We gatekeeping raids now? That's why we have normal and savage as separate modes for people like you.

It stops being something for you and me when my plate is literally just simplified so yours can exist to begin with