Why does Sage punish you for using your healing spells?

[Katie_Kitty]

I've found Sage easier to heal and DPS then my SCH. Ya get to toss out very quick shields, faster then any other healer ever could, while doing 3 forms of AoE damage for wall to wall pulling, and can keep the tank topped off with mostly just Kardia when it comes to bosses, tossing out a Dru or Ixo as needed to keep MP up while keeping Kera on cooldown. But gotta remember, there was a stat squish, and some lower level dungeons in roullette the tanks want to chain pull but not use CD's, then ya can cheat and just spam Eukrasia into Dia and easy peasy, not many healer can spam heal like that with a buffer, while moving...

Let us not forget, Soteria(Makes Kardia heal more)+Physis or Krasis? Ya.. Tanks not gonna take much damage as your doing AoE damage, not that I've seen at least.

Sage is a wonderful healer. All of its mitigation/regen oGCDs are powerful and you can easily use them together when needed. And none of it has to take away from dosis spam.

[AlyaNimfa]

Weird, I thought since Endwalker that all healers were being punished for healing, since most don't heal at all.

[Veliaire]

Weird, I thought since Endwalker that all healers were being punished for healing, since most don't heal at all.

Any data sources to back that up? Or are you just making stuff up?

[AlyaNimfa]

Any data sources to back that up? Or are you just making stuff up?

Meme'ing way too hard.

[Windwalker]

I like Sage so far, pretty quick and mobile, dealing damage is something you should do as a healer too. Especially White mage got some powerful damaging skills, like Holy stuns and regens on big pulls. I had a whm in a dungeon that only used Cure 1 and Medica 2 in lvl 81 - 89 dungeons, was annoying since i had to run from mobs to stay alive. He didn't even use a single regen or Holy.

[Saimeren]

I shouldn't be forced to spam damage moves when my tank is dying.

Then don't. Kardia's healing is crap. It's not going to save your tank. It's an extremely low heal that shouldn't be relied upon after L30. You're a healer.. Use your heals.

Sage's Kardia triggers a single heal on a single target for a low potency upon successful spell cast of a damaging attack. It does not scale with the amount of damage you deal, which means that it's just a rolling HoT while you're dealing damage.

Otherwise it's not in use. If your party needs a heal, stop dpsing for a second and heal your party like you're supposed to. Sage is NOT a dps healer. You're a healer that has a temporary HoT on a single target while dealing damage.

You should essentially play your Sage like you do your White Mage; except your HoT spell that you'd spread around is a shield instead. Think of it like that and ignore Kardia all together. Put it on your tank and forget it's even there. Don't rely on it, don't try to maximize it's effects.. It's not going to save your tank.

[Saimeren]

Where are those moments because I feel like my tanks are always dying. Is that my fault or am I not giving them enough mitigation when I am playing Sage?

Apply shields to your tank.. All the time. Use your MP, you have a lot of it and you get a lot of it back simply from casting your OCGD's. Every single one of your OGCD's gives you 700 MP. You also have lucid dreaming.

When your Eukrasian Diagnosis expires, simply put another one on. Don't be afraid to spend your MP, that's why you have it. Apply the shield. When it breaks, apply it again.

On top of that, don't sleep on Physis (II), Holos and Pepsis. They're really good spells, and I rarely see other Sage's using them.

If you need burst, cast Diagnosis then Eukrasian Diagnosis, Pepsis, Taurochole/Druochole and then another Eukrasian Diagnosis. Do that quickly and you'll top your tank up no problem. At that point you just have to keep your shield up. Toss Haima out if you need to, and use Kerachole when necessary.

Sage healing isn't difficult. Don't rely on Kardia for anything and you'll be fine.

Edit: You might feel that your role is to dps first and heal second. It's not. You're a healer. Stop dealing damage and heal your party. A dead party member isn't going to help kill the boss. A healthy party member is going to deal more damage than you anyway. Heal your team.

[MitsukiLily]

I like Sage so far, pretty quick and mobile

The mobility is really nice, at least it feels fluid like that. The dash is really nice too

[Katie_Kitty]

Apply shields to your tank.. All the time. Use your MP, you have a lot of it and you get a lot of it back simply from casting your OCGD's. Every single one of your OGCD's gives you 700 MP. You also have lucid dreaming.

When your Eukrasian Diagnosis expires, simply put another one on. Don't be afraid to spend your MP, that's why you have it. Apply the shield. When it breaks, apply it again.

On top of that, don't sleep on Physis (II), Holos and Pepsis. They're really good spells, and I rarely see other Sage's using them.

If you need burst, cast Diagnosis then Eukrasian Diagnosis, Pepsis, Taurochole/Druochole and then another Eukrasian Diagnosis. Do that quickly and you'll top your tank up no problem. At that point you just have to keep your shield up. Toss Haima out if you need to, and use Kerachole when necessary.

Sage healing isn't difficult. Don't rely on Kardia for anything and you'll be fine.

Edit: You might feel that your role is to dps first and heal second. It's not. You're a healer. Stop dealing damage and heal your party. A dead party member isn't going to help kill the boss. A healthy party member is going to deal more damage than you anyway. Heal your team.

Oh my god, please stop giving terrible advice. Please.

For anyone reading this, do not apply and reapply diagnosis shields. That is not the way you play sage. You should be primarily using your oGCDs to mitigate and regen/cure. You can use your shield when there are no targetable enemies, but otherwise, all you need to do is weave your oGCDs while spamming your damage attacks.. that's it.. You don't need diagnosis.

[Shibi]

For anyone reading this, do not apply and reapply diagnosis shields. That is not the way you play sage. You should be primarily using your oGCDs to mitigate and regen/cure. You can use your shield when there are no targetable enemies, but otherwise, all you need to do is weave your oGCDs,

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While it's certainly not a spam-spell because it's pretty inefficient, I believe it's a little more situational than just a pre-pull use as you mention.

With luck, my Euk_Diag done at the right time can shield for about 1/4 of a HP bar, plus on that crit add another 125% of damage mitigation. If haima/panhaima is down or being saved and one of the squishies is about to be eaten with a focused head marker I find it's quite invaluable. Especially if that head marker is on me and will carry a stun with it.

And when it goes to hell-in-a-handbasket because your pug tank isn't mitigating and your reaper is taking all the cleaves... 3-button pepsis helps. Also, as it's pretty strong it's use with pepsis is good on that surprise super-bolide.

There are likely more situations I can find for it. It's a tool, and a fairly good one in the correct spots.

But yeah, apply and reapply and keep them up all the time isn't it's use. It's far more situational, but it does carry valid uses beyond pre-pull.