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    kizumiayamame's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    How dare they make a unique healer with a differing play style and approach to healing. The audacity of it all. I can’t believe Yoshi P wouldn’t just make WHM 2.0
    That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is the design of Sage is fundamentally flawed and its power budget is locked behind Kardion for no reason and I just want to know why.
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    xxmiamorecadenza's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kizumiayamame View Post
    That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is the design of Sage is fundamentally flawed and its power budget is locked behind Kardion for no reason and I just want to know why.
    I don’t think the job is the issue here.

    As someone whose leveled it to max - I had 0 issues with healing even semi-decent tanks.

    The skill level may just be too high for you or you’re not properly grasping it’s kit - which is fine - I’m awful at some jobs as well. I’d follow the early recommendations and stick with WHM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kizumiayamame View Post
    That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is the design of Sage is fundamentally flawed and its power budget is locked behind Kardion for no reason and I just want to know why.
    It’s not flawed at all. Seems to work just fine for other Sages. If the job isn’t for you, that’s fine. But Kardia doesn’t need changing.

    Kardia is not your main source of healing. That is your Addersgall stacks; you get 1 every 20 seconds—which is faster than the generation of WHM lilies.

    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiLily View Post
    I feel you OP, at this point I only queue with my warrior friend or else tanks just die instantly from how low kardion heal is. Like at least astro gets diurnal sect. Add in the fact that soteria is way too short and you just have these weird chunks of your rotation where you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Eukrasian Prognosis should grant regen if they're gonna drop the ball after they FINALLY make a new healer class all these years >_>
    Why would Eukrasian Prognosis grant a regen when Kerachole is on a 30 second cooldown and get one via trait at level 78? It doesn’t need a regen.

    Eukrasian Prognosis should not be spammed like Medica II, and this is an fundamental error I notice a lot of novice Sages doing.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 12-24-2021 at 04:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kizumiayamame View Post
    That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is the design of Sage is fundamentally flawed and its power budget is locked behind Kardion for no reason and I just want to know why.
    Its not flawed, Kardion is for Sages what Fairies are for SCH, Regen for WHM and Aspected Benefic is for AST.

    Its literally just there to off heal the Tank while you are dps on a Boss.

    For Trash pulls, if you rely on Kardion to heal the Tank, you should reconsider playing this class.

    Your main source for healing during trash pulls is Eukrasian Diagnosis with Druochloe and depending on the Tank, a HoT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Escalon View Post
    Its not flawed, Kardion is for Sages what Fairies are for SCH, Regen for WHM and Aspected Benefic is for AST.

    Its literally just there to off heal the Tank while you are dps on a Boss.

    For Trash pulls, if you rely on Kardion to heal the Tank, you should reconsider playing this class.

    Your main source for healing during trash pulls is Eukrasian Diagnosis with Druochloe and depending on the Tank, a HoT
    First of let me say that I love SGE and I personally don't suggest here anything.

    You said for trash pulls if you rely on Kardion to heal...

    But isn't this just what the OP implies here? 3 other healers can dps or heal and get the benefit of their "Kardion" while SGE can't.

    Now my personal stance. I think it's pretty much poor man's gimmick. Interesting idea nonetheless, maybe new traits in the next expansion let us apply it more than once.
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    Last edited by Jin-; 12-24-2021 at 09:04 PM.

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