Why does Sage punish you for using your healing spells?

[kizumiayamame]

Why does sage punish you for using healing spells? The way Kardion works is that you ONLY heal when you cast a damage spell. No other healer works like that or has their healing tied to their damage. It's such an unnecessary mechanic that incentivizes healers to make Suboptimal plays. As a former White Mage player (let's not get into the thin air nerfs, shall we) it's incredibly frustrating that sqenix ignores what gameplay feels like for healers. Just make kardion work whenever you cast ANY gcd. I shouldn't be forced to spam damage moves when my tank is dying.

[HyoMinPark]

Sage is meant to be different. It’s not meant to be a WHM clone. Personally, I like being rewarded for dealing damage as a healer—there’s little point in not trying to deal damage when you aren’t trying to heal. And Sage’s personal damage is monstrous.

Sage’s primary heals come from it’s Addersgall stacks, not from Diagnosis/Prognosis or their Eukrasian versions. All of these heals can be weaved between Dosis casts. For a tank in dungeon pulls, Taurochole + Haima is god-tier—and then your passive regen from Kardia will keep them steady in between weaving Druochole on them. On pulls where you don’t have Haima, you can use Panhaima if you’re 80+. It serves the same purpose. Kerachole is 10% damage mitigation, and after level 78 it gains a regen and is absolutely broken—pop it at the start of a pull for regen+mitigation. You can use Physis II to give the tank a regen every 60 seconds on top of your Kardia ticks. At 86, you gain Krasis, which is Nature’s Minne on a 60s CD. Granted, I think you get it a bit too late, but it’s still useful on a tank; and it affects the healing potency of your oGCDs.

If you are reduced to spamming GCDs (Eukrasian Diagnosis is better than Diagnosis, which is less potent than Cure I and unusable in any higher level dungeon) on the tank, then you have an issue that isn’t even related to Sage. Either your tank isn’t popping defensives, or your DPS are failing to kill trash packs fast enough (likely from not AOEing). Sage may have a harder time than other healers in dungeons due to lack of burst healing, but it isn’t bad.


If you don’t like the damage mechanic, then you are free to play the other three healers. But don’t ask to have it removed or altered for those of us who actually like it.

[Vortuna]

Go back to whm for your daily dose of cure 1 spams.

[RobynDaBank]

I got the popcorn!!

[Bjorn-Kobito]

Go back to whm for your daily dose of cure 1 spams.

Cure 1? You're just as much of a troll as the OP.

[kizumiayamame]

Where are those moments because I feel like my tanks are always dying. Is that my fault or am I not giving them enough mitigation when I am playing Sage? @Penthea

[Penthea]

Where are those moments because I feel like my tanks are always dying. Is that my fault or am I not giving them enough mitigation when I am playing Sage? @Penthea

I haven't played much sage but I know others who have it capped with the best gear possible equipped. They have played it a lot. They have said it can be harder than the other healers in certain dungeons but it's not so bad as long as your tank knows what they're doing and the dps isn't low enough for the fights to last too long. From the little I have used of sage I am so far inclined to agree.

[HyoMinPark]

Where are those moments because I feel like my tanks are always dying. Is that my fault or am I not giving them enough mitigation when I am playing Sage? @Penthea

If you have tanks that are paper, then nothing will be able to really help you. But that isn’t a SGE design issue, that is a tank failing to play their job properly issue. I wouldn’t want to heal that on any of the healers, and I play all of them.

Cure 1? You're just as much of a troll as the OP.

You would be astounded at the amount of WHMs in 80+ dungeons that think Cure I is the way to heal the tank.

[MitsukiLily]

I feel you OP, at this point I only queue with my warrior friend or else tanks just die instantly from how low kardion heal is. Like at least astro gets diurnal sect. Add in the fact that soteria is way too short and you just have these weird chunks of your rotation where you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Eukrasian Prognosis should grant regen if they're gonna drop the ball after they FINALLY make a new healer class all these years >_>

[xxmiamorecadenza]

Why does sage punish you for using healing spells? The way Kardion works is that you ONLY heal when you cast a damage spell. No other healer works like that or has their healing tied to their damage. It's such an unnecessary mechanic that incentivizes healers to make Suboptimal plays. As a former White Mage player (let's not get into the thin air nerfs, shall we) it's incredibly frustrating that sqenix ignores what gameplay feels like for healers. Just make kardion work whenever you cast ANY gcd. I shouldn't be forced to spam damage moves when my tank is dying.

How dare they make a unique healer with a differing play style and approach to healing. The audacity of it all. I can’t believe Yoshi P wouldn’t just make WHM 2.0