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  1. #21
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    Your suggested solution doesn't work at all. People throw up parties even if they aren't in the right zone/instance, and you have no way of telling until you join up (and even then you can't really tell - all you can ascertain is whether they're in the same zone as you are). So "duh huh huh uhh just join a party" is a really, really dumb suggestion. Also, who does hunts solo? You would only get tag credit and would not get any meaningful amount of tomes, nuts, etc. Of course we're doing it in a party. I really don't know how a queue system for entering zones would possibly be a bad thing (especially when the alternative is to have to sit at an aetheryte trying to click through the multi-step process of getting to the right instance a million times hoping that it'll let you in).

    Try using your brain a little bit, yeah?
    The game has no idea what you are doing in any particular zone at any particular time. If you are going solo, obviously the game will put you into a zone without congestion. If you were in a party, the game tries to keep your party together, so if your leader is there ahead of the pack, you most likely get in. Obviously actual results may vary…

    There really isn’t anything more that can be done because as you said, assuming a zone queue existed, by the time it pops for you the mob is already dead.

    Moreover, this will not be a problem in a month or so when the “gotta have it now” crowd have already gotten whatever it is they want and hunts die down significantly.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    Other than the queues to get into the game and actually play it, it is almost impossible to do any sort of hunts these days. Every single time an S rank or world-boss FATE gets called via Discord or a CWLS, I cannot get into the proper instance on my own server/world despite trying 50+ times at the aetheryte to get in. And if you fail to get in, you have to repeat the entire process of re-clicking on the dumb thing and going through the entire menu again. It's just like queues when Endwalker first dropped where if you got 2002'ed, you had to start the login process all over again. By the time it finally lets me it a zone, it's almost always because people have started leaving the zone because the mark is already dead.

    SE, fix your crappy game that is unable to handle even 150 people being in the same zone at once. Make a queue for zones/instances instead of just kicking players back and making them try to spam to get in. This is almost as ridiculous and stupid as your crappy housing system where players had to sit there and click on a placard for hours on end hoping they'd click on it at just the right time.

    Alright, now I'm ready for all the white knights to come defend this crappy game - please proceed!
    If you can only describe the game as crappy stop playing it. Game has issues for sure and feedback is good. Clicking to move instance a few times it not the end of the world, or do like I do and wake early for the slower early morning hunt trains
    Even in Shb at the start of the expansion the hunt trains were always congested. It always settles down a few weeks in, wait or suffer the congestion like everyone else.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    If you can only describe the game as crappy stop playing it. Game has issues for sure and feedback is good. Clicking to move instance a few times it not the end of the world, or do like I do and wake early for the slower early morning hunt trains
    Even in Shb at the start of the expansion the hunt trains were always congested. It always settles down a few weeks in, wait or suffer the congestion like everyone else.
    Wow, what a helpful suggestion. I’m glad that none of us have jobs that require us to wake up early and immediately get ready to head out the door and go to work and thus prevent us from playing anytime before the evenings when it’s most congested.

    In any event, the congestion doesn’t really ever completely die down. Throughout the entirety of ShB there were often issues of getting into zones when S ranks were called out due to the emergence of prominent Discord and CWLS hunt groups.

    This issue actually becomes much more prominent when the hype “dies down” and SE does away with multiple instances per zone. When that happens, you often become unable to even enter a given zone whatsoever during S rank callouts or crowded trains (as opposed to being dumped into a random instance in the given zone and then having to try to change instances at the aetheryte). The current system makes it to where you have to spam cast teleport to that zone if you don’t get in, and instead of checking prior to you casting teleport, it checks only after you have spent 5 seconds casting it and then makes you rinse and repeat if you don’t get in. As I’ve been saying, this is dumb and extremely annoying. Just let players cast teleport once and then toss them into a queue like world hopping (which they can back out of if they want) instead of making them spam cast teleport.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Sorry but this isn't really an issue. If you get into a party, you can get into the instance if even 1 person is in there. If you trying to solo hunts and having a bad time, using your brain alittle is free.
    You are not guaranteed to get in even in a party.
    So I would rather not have that misinformation spread.
    Sometimes I managed to switch instance without issues and sometimes not, that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    Which mount is that?
    Participating in the NM FATE "Omicron Recall: Killing Order" and killing the boss "Chi" you will receive a number of Chi Bolts as a reward, depending on your FATE score (Gold rating = 6 bolts).
    This is a NM aka World Boss level FATE, so you need to have many full parties at L90 to kill it.
    For 12 of these bolts, you can buy the mount item Level Checker Identification Key from Nesvaaz in Radz-at-Han.
    This is for the mount Level Checker - https://ffxivcollect.com/mounts/268
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    Kirika Yuumura of the Noir

    The Soldats' Manor, home of the Noir and of Noir's Eorzean Natural History Museum and Aquarium
    Plot 7, Ward 22, Shirogane, Faerie

    Noir... It is the name of an ancient fate. Two maidens who govern death; the peace of the newly-born Noir hands protect.

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    I'd rather the focus on improving PS4 performance or at least add an option to hide x amount of players so i acually have a chance at doing these hunts without dying in 2 seconds because i can't see what's going on.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Funny I was just in a CHI instance with 600 people...You know you could just get into a party instead of doing Hunts solo. It literally bypasses the Instance Congestion in favor of getting all party members together.

    So yeah it's probably a you problem.
    It's not just a them problem. Right now our server's regular hunt trains are taking long breaks with every zone transition because it takes upwards of 5 minutes just for everyone to be able to zone in, because they're either getting stuck unable to teleport into the right zone or getting stuck at aetherytes trying to change instances. It's unfortunate but expected, and imo the only really annoying part is needing to click over and over and over to try to get in.

    Personally I'd be in favor of them swapping it over to a queue vs spam clicking purely because it'd be less annoying - just one click and then wait. Assuming it's a less broken queue system than the one to actually log in has been over the last few weeks of course :P

    Edit to add the important note that when I say hunt trains, I mean multiple full parties worth of people waiting a few minutes to make sure their whole party is actually able to zone in before the train continues.
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    Tbh no due to timers on fates, on gathering points and in some cases sight seeing. Not counting hunts would be gone by the time people got in
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    Last edited by FusiaRain; 12-26-2021 at 05:02 AM.

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    Hunts are a stupid system anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Sorry but this isn't really an issue. If you get into a party, you can get into the instance if even 1 person is in there. If you trying to solo hunts and having a bad time, using your brain alittle is free.
    This seems inaccurate. I've been in hunt trains throughout this week.

    Even with party members in the instance, congestion has prevented me and other members from getting in.
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