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    WhimsicalPacifist's Avatar
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    Brynhildn Frostwyght
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I'm quite a compassionate person and realize that some people might not have the requisite gear for higher tiered instances in Alliance Roulette. Simply synch them up to minimum iLVL for the instances that they're the right job level for in Alliance Roulette. And they can roll Need for gear within the instance that's relevant for them.
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    Lavitz Orlandeau
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    I see my last post is what got me punished. Very well. I'll rephrase.

    By using iLvl to control and manipulate what Duty people are going to get(In this case usually CT), it just encourages more cheesing methods to come up and a lazier attitude during said raid. CT allows for this because of how mind numblingly easy it is these days with only a couple points of "Oh I'm awake really" in them. People being so bored of doing them, and people that are literally just there cause it's the easy pay out; I don't think this is going to make for a healthy DF section in the long run.

    I'll not be surprised if the DF for 24 man becomes just a lazier and lazier slog.
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
    I see my last post is what got me punished. Very well. I'll rephrase.

    By using iLvl to control and manipulate what Duty people are going to get(In this case usually CT), it just encourages more cheesing methods to come up and a lazier attitude during said raid. CT allows for this because of how mind numblingly easy it is these days with only a couple points of "Oh I'm awake really" in them. People being so bored of doing them, and people that are literally just there cause it's the easy pay out; I don't think this is going to make for a healthy DF section in the long run.

    I'll not be surprised if the DF for 24 man becomes just a lazier and lazier slog.
    Always has been. When you design content with idea that a couple of good players are supposed to carry the rest of the party (Yoshida's own words) it is only a question of time when those good players get tired of being saddled with freeloaders and either stop running Alliance Raids completely or look for a way to be put into the fastest ones.
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    Brynhildn Frostwyght
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    Maybe what's needed is for people to have to learn to do mechanics. Synch higher levels down to a lower iLVL. Max level? Min iLVL for Crystal Tower.
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    Dewslam Beefgrab
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WhimsicalPacifist View Post
    Maybe what's needed is for people to have to learn to do mechanics. Synch higher levels down to a lower iLVL. Max level? Min iLVL for Crystal Tower.
    This just punishes newer players for no real reason.
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    Vanessa Ra'lanne
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewslam View Post
    This just punishes newer players for no real reason.
    you mean the people that would go in at lower ilv, and thus, would theoretically have to respect mechanics anyway?
    oh wait, even w/ just the gear their lv. 50 jobquest gives them (ilv. 90 left side) they can already ignore most mechanics.
    And the few mechanics that do get messed up by new players, well, they're not ilv. related.
    (LotA Buttons, WoD Angra's Doom, WoD Cerberus)
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    Skye Mizuchi
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    Behemoth
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    Ninja Lv 90
    i believe their system is the one thing that prevents them from actually making all of the roulettes manditory...people still believe the ilvl cheese exist...but at least more and more people understand its more about the population only unlocking ct and nothing else...if there was a way to make it a requirement without cutting the leveling middle-man (levelers) then i am supporting this idea of just making it required to keep the roulette alive
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    Bulletproof Boyscout
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    Seraph
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    Sage Lv 100
    There is a cheese. If there's no newbie queueing for CT and a level 90 player cheese ilvl and queue for DR Alliance, then he will drag 23 other players who queue for DR Alliance into CT
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    Forctyus Goldmaul
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    when you get message there is a bonus, then you know someone new queued for that or they just opened and just doing alliance roulette / but if you dont have a bonus and still get CT , its still hard to inspect everyone, theyre under 60lvl . stripping is a shame, same as leaving MSQ for not getting the one with more exp . but i dont see how to change tbh. there is much likely no way . what if those people on 90lvl just forgot their gear XD or they just didnt open those new alliance raids which can be also really a thing
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    Last edited by ForctyusGold; 01-27-2022 at 02:02 PM.

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    Oishi Tamanegi
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    Zurvan
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    Lancer Lv 90
    I just haven't been queue'ing for roulettes anymore lately. Compared to just queue'ing for a dungeon of similar level directly on a job I'm trying to level, it's just not worth dealing with CT or Castrum/Prae, as I usually enjoy myself thoroughly and have a pretty good time just chatting with the randos I meet this way.

    I've been leveling bard on an alt the last 2 days, and had a blast meeting so many people this way, helped a new player learn how to use tank stance properly in Tam Tara.. but even with the CT raid overflow, I never had a horrible time like I have had with Castrum. MSQ roulette has become such a nightmare I just avoid it, even Praetorium isn't worth it to me. Squadron is many times more entertaining than CT raids for me, and that's bad, as I don't want to play my MMORPG's solo. Like defeats the purpose. Anyhow, I too hope they do with something with the bogus alliance roulette.
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