Alliance roulette changes is needed

[baklava151]

Best solution I can think of is requiring the minimum ilvl of your highest unlocked raid that you can do at your level. So if you're 75 and have all of Ivalice done, you can only queue Alliance roulette with the required ilvl for Orbonne. I'm sick of popping into CT raids and seeing someone with no gear put it back on and then making a comment like "oh teehee, got Lota again!!! xd"

[Quintessa]

Best solution I can think of is requiring the minimum ilvl of your highest unlocked raid that you can do at your level. So if you're 75 and have all of Ivalice done, you can only queue Alliance roulette with the required ilvl for Orbonne. I'm sick of popping into CT raids and seeing someone with no gear put it back on and then making a comment like "oh teehee, got Lota again!!! xd"

I can get on board with this idea.

[RGPaynless]

What I think should be done, if possible within the game's code structure, is check the maximum possible average item level of gear in your inventory, armory chest, and equipped gear that you can equip, and base your possible queue item level off of that instead of just your currently equipped gear, and prevent moving items from outside (saddlebag for example) of these three into them after queue has popped.

This would prevent item level cheesing to get the lower level raids altogether, as you could still get higher level raids with a lower item level of equipped gear, at which point if you got a higher level raid and didn't swap to your higher item level gear, you'd be considered to be griefing and could be subsequently kicked/blacklisted/reported.

Of course, this does nothing for those who simply never unlocked the higher level raids, especially since the CT series is required for the MSQ and the rest are not.

[PowerDj]

At the very least, they should add Ilvl sync to the CT raids so they can be experienced at the intended difficulty. The reason people cheese the roulette is because CT is quick and easy, and the reason it's quick and easy is because everyone's at an item level WAY higher than what's intended. So you get to skip all of the boss mechanics, and everything dies in 3 minutes.

But sync everyone's item level, and the raids become more difficult (making them more engaging and enjoyable to play through) and take longer to complete (so people are less likely to specifically seek them out for quick rewards.)

Then on top of that, make the rewards from the roulette change depending on the length. Do a 15-minute CT raid? Then you'll get half the rewards of a 30-minute raid.

Unfortunately there's still the fact that CT is the only required alliance raid for the MSQ, so even without people spoofing roulette it would still be more frequent than the other raids. Not really sure how they could fix that; forcing people to unlock the other raids would be disruptive for the MSQ and probably annoy a lot of people, and adding it to main scenario roulette (as I've seen a lot of people suggest) would make people leave Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium even more, since CT raids are far quicker.

[ssunny2008]

After reading this i obviously recognize it at any time it happens. It´s not only alliance raids, it´s normal raids, trials, pretty much everything...

SE should really do something against it. I´m personally tired of Alexander too. Shouldn´t be so hard to bring ppl into everything possible based their class-level and not gear-score right?

[Tlamila]

After reading this i obviously recognize it at any time it happens. It´s not only alliance raids, it´s normal raids, trials, pretty much everything...

SE should really do something against it. I´m personally tired of Alexander too. Shouldn´t be so hard to bring ppl into everything possible based their class-level and not gear-score right?

I think with those the biggest problem, rather than gear cheesing, is the influx of new players the last summer, which made the game have waaaay more sprouts than veterans.
I actually think it got a lot better since EW, since a lot of veterans returned and higher level duties actually also pop, but in the period before that it was impossible to get anything above 50 in levelling and trials, and anything above alexander in raids.

[Olinara]

I've gotten Orbonne Monastery, Orbonne Monastery, and Puppet's Bunker the last three times I've run it. I agree with the comment above that the xp should somehow adjust for the typical time to complete, but I'm not sure that wouldn't start making people drop if it WAS CT.

[Toutatis]

One of the issues with that proposal is that it could work only if you have completed MSQ and are levelling alts but if you are working on the MSQ it is easy to over level and still be stuck in the previous expansion while the new ARs, class quest abilities and gear (unless you use the MB) are still locked behind many quests (gear unlocks only at the end of an expansion).

I recently started a new char and that’s the issue I have. It’s not that I don’t want to do the other ARs, the game won’t let me regardless of gear as I am still in ARR post msq yet am lvl 60+ due to various boosts, doing daily roulettes and the Moogle Treasure Trove event. Even without doing all of this and just sticking to MSQ, it is pretty much impossible to not over level.

That being said, I agree, I would like more variety on my main. Void Ark has been popping a bit more lately but other than that, other ARs show up very rarely. If I want something else, I usually select a specific duty after doing the roulette but queues can be pretty long sometimes. Surely there is a better way to balance roulette.

[Dewslam]

But why. Even if crystal tower wasn't mandatory for the story (which, let's face it, is a huge contributing factor since you don't even have to unlock the other alliance raids unless you really want to do Bozja.) it'd be the most done because it's fast and easy, making it the most rewarding. The problem is that the other raids simply aren't worth doing in the vast majority of circumstances, and the few times they are, like relic grinds, you're just going to be queueing for them anyway. Trying to force people to play the way you, personally, want to play is never going to work and, in fact, kind of sucks because it's readily apparent that the majority of the playerbase doesn't want that or else they'd already be doing it.

That being said, I agree, I would like more variety on my main. Void Ark has been popping a bit more lately but other than that, other ARs show up very rarely. If I want something else, I usually select a specific duty after doing the roulette but queues can be pretty long sometimes. Surely there is a better way to balance roulette.

The easiest way to incentivize it would be to make the higher level raids offer proportionately more exp than they already do to compensate for the time and effort involved in clearing them compared to crystal tower.

[Toutatis]

you don't even have to unlock the other alliance raids unless you really want to do Bozja.)

I wonder what is the proportion of lvl 80+ players that don’t have them all unlocked? It could be pretty high as this content can be easily skipped. That is probably a major contributing factor to the other raids not popping.

The easiest way to incentivize it would be to make the higher level raids offer proportionately more exp than they already do to compensate for the time and effort involved in clearing them compared to crystal tower.

As someone has already pointed out, people would probably just end up quitting roulette as is already happening with Castrum Meridianum in the MSQ roulette. A separate roulette for CT and another for optional more advanced raids? That could perhaps provide the incentive to do CT which would help new players and to also unlock the other raids.

Although not roulette, now that Bozja is used purely to lvl up alts, I don't see any incentives to do Castrum, Delubrum, and/or Dalraida either. Sad to see those options being wiped out of the game because of that.