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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 98

    Anyone Else Noticing Shield Healers Are Being Paired With Shield Healers?

    Hi everyone! I was under the impression when it was decided to break healers into pure healers and shield healers that like wasn't going to paired with like.

    So, why is it that in every heavy party I've been in as Sage, I've been paired with another Sage? It seems silly. After all, our shields don't stack the way regenerating heals do, which has led to me or the other healer overwriting the other's mitigation.
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    Tolo Rewd
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    Summoner Lv 100
    The hardest level 90 content we have can be cleared without healers, two Sages are not a problem for that.

    Double SGE (and double anything) is bad, but a SGE+SCH is strong and won't be unheard of once savage releases. Might even be the meta comp for next raid tier. The only thing conflicting is GCD shields, which you wouldn't be spamming anyway.
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    OtakuSempai's Avatar
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    Corvus Marcellus
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    Exodus
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    Sage Lv 90
    Gods I hope they set the the matchmaker to always have 1 shield and 1 pure like they said in the live letter so we can f*** the queue times. Maybe healers will get some love after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anhaato View Post
    The biggest issue is that square just can't reconcile that some people won't play some jobs optimally. Instead of accepting that people will do that and complain about jobs being hard, they lower the skill ceiling on them. Sure it might make the more casual players happy, but even then for a job like this it's very rarely going to make someone who hated the job start loving it and want to main it. Meanwhile those who enjoyed it before feel alienated.

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    Dearche's Avatar
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    Dearche Claudia
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    SGE is just that popular right now, for quite a few reasons. Though savage is going to show us some real comps soon enough. How the pairings rank will be interesting, like usual, I doubt we'll see WHM in any of them until a few weeks down the line.

    Quote Originally Posted by OtakuSempai View Post
    Gods I hope they set the the matchmaker to always have 1 shield and 1 pure like they said in the live letter so we can f*** the queue times. Maybe healers will get some love after that.
    I'd rather not have to deal with DPS queue times just because SGE is my main. If that were to happen, I think I'd just switch to BLM or something instead, rather than changing to another healer. SGE is just so buttery smooth to play, I have trouble even touching SCH even after maining it for seven years. Even Pepsis doesn't feel terrible compared to some of the shit SCH has to deal with.
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    Tezu Silvin
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by OtakuSempai View Post
    Gods I hope they set the the matchmaker to always have 1 shield and 1 pure like they said in the live letter so we can f*** the queue times. Maybe healers will get some love after that.
    I thought during one of the live letters they said it's gonna change to 1 pure and 1 shield. I was bummed when I see double SGE and double SCH in the DF trials.
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    Jonathan Clover
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miziliti View Post
    I thought during one of the live letters they said it's gonna change to 1 pure and 1 shield. I was bummed when I see double SGE and double SCH in the DF trials.
    As far as I recall, that was for the Raid Finder only. I don't believe anything was said about this in regards to DF.
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miziliti View Post
    I thought during one of the live letters they said it's gonna change to 1 pure and 1 shield. I was bummed when I see double SGE and double SCH in the DF trials.
    I believe they want to prioritize one of each - but better to just pair like together rather than leave everyone in the queue waiting for someone to get around to leveling their other classes.
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    Althena Rolair
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Gotta say, I've seen far too many alliance raids where the healers were double Sage, double Sage, and WHM+AST.
    Come on match making system, spread out those pure healers.
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Given sage is both overpowered and the healer that hides the 1 button spam the most AND its got that new job honeymoon, yeah you'll see tons of sages

    Plus the shield/regen split is a farce. Sage has 3 regens and 4 shields and 1 of those shields isn't used in practice so its effectively equal.
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Yoshida advertised "one of each healer type" rule exclusively for Raid Finder. If you are on NA/EU you have likely never used that feature, and never will. For your average Dungeon Finder content it literally doesn't matter what your healers are.
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    Last edited by Azuri; 12-28-2021 at 09:25 PM.

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