Ew Spoiler Content and Trigger warning on Quests

[Padudu]

How do you even get through the expacs at all lol

[Karatecatgrl]

If you believe that mental health is important, you should realize that trigger warnings are not helpful to peoples' mental health. Someone posted an article explaining that earlier in the topic.

You should also realize that there already are warnings, ESRB/PEGI put warnings of these kinds of things in their detailed ratings, as was mentioned before.

Pegi's website:

The issue here is that we don't have access to PEGI in game, nor is it listed on Square Website. You'd have to know to go there and look.

I didn't know about PEGI until this thread. And have played this game since Beta phase 3.

I just feel a setting in the menus or even just in the quest complete/turn in.

Please stop being so abelist.
Not everyone is neurotypical. Not everyone is you. We are all different and we are simply asking for an accessibility feature that is accommodating for those with mental health illness.

[LeonKeyh]

The issue here is that we don't have access to PEGI in game, nor is it listed on Square Website. You'd have to know to go there and look.

I didn't know about PEGI until this thread. And have played this game since Beta phase 3.

I just feel a setting in the menus or even just in the quest complete/turn in.

Please stop being so abelist.
Not everyone is neurotypical. Not everyone is you. We are all different and we are simply asking for an accessibility feature that is accommodating for those with mental health illness.

There exists a world outside of the game, everything doesn't need to be in the game. PEGI/ESRB is there to make decisions when BUYING the game.

PEGI/ESRB have been around since the 90s and are how video games are rated based off content. If you are hyper sensitive to content, then you need to be aware of the tools that are available to you whenever making decisions to purchase games. You had to REALLY have tried to avoid knowing about them since their ratings and content warnings are literally ANYWHERE that you would have gone to purchase the game.

You asked for a tool, I told you there is a tool. Don't sit there any psychoanalyze me, because you have no idea who I am. I also shared with you that your method of avoidance is shown to be unhealthy for you. There's a difference between being "abelist" and fighting against things that are incredibly unhelpful for everyone (that already exist for the people who deem that they need it).

[ValStryder]

So I've just finished a segment of the in endwalker main senario and well I really really wish there was a content or trigger warning to warn us about just how dark and bad it is. I know you told us in live letters it was going to be bleak but this requires more warning than that.

I also wish after the end of those quests you gave us the hotline prevention number because it's absolutely important to remind people that's not okay.

Mental health is no joke and NPCs commiting suicide isn't ok, even if it's implied.

Offer us the choice to know that something like that is happening so we can prepare ourselves for it, instead of seeing it, being blindsided and then be reminded of real world losses and not want to play.

I took time off ffxiv because of that quest as it was messed up and I'm currently dealing with a pet loss and lost a cousin two years ago to suicide.

So yeah a bit more warning next time.
No I'm not okay.

This has happened multiple times throughout the game. Every time someone sacrifices themselves, it's still suicide no matter how you look at it. (There's one exception as one particular NPC didnt necessarily know they'd die) If you want to get talking about things that are not OK though.... is it really OK for us to go around murdering people just because some 12,000 year old goddess deems it necessary? (The easiest and most obvious example is Thordan and is knights). Or even when we see two adopted siblings murder each other in Stormblood?

[Lelila38]

Having a pop up similar to "several cutscenes will now play in a sequence" that instead say "several cutscenes will now play in a sequence and some of them may include triggering imagery" is not that immersion breaking or spoilery, and I think people's mental health is more important than something like spoilers in a video game story.

Couldn't we have that as an option to toggle on or off? I see why some people would like that and while I personally wouldn't use it, its presence as an option wouldn't hurt me.
Actually I'd love to turn off the several cutscenes warning to begin with, breaks immersion.

[MellowMink]

I don’t understand why my last comment was removed without explanation. I was expressing continued discomfort toward problematic rhetoric that called at least some victims of suicide as being selfish, and yet those offensive comments still remain up; my last comment also noted that I felt that the negative labeling of those victims was a bigger concern than the game not having another warning at a specific point in the game, so I’m not clear on what rules I apparently broke...

Would it just make more sense for this overall thread to be deleted at this point? Sorry for rambling, but I’m honestly very uncomfortable now with what happened and sincerely want to understand what I did wrong so that I can improve…

[Beytran70]

Someone should repost this topic on General Discussion because I'm very curious how they would view such things.

[Karatecatgrl]

I didn't say all were selfish, you inferred that.

What I was saying was I felt shiva's was heroic and Zeno's was selfish. There's nothing more to be said.

In any case a setting in the menus would very much help with these kinds of triggers.

[HyoMinPark]

I didn't say all were selfish, you inferred that.

What I was saying was I felt shiva's was heroic and Zeno's was selfish. There's nothing more to be said.

In any case a setting in the menus would very much help with these kinds of triggers.

This doesn’t have anything to really do with the thread topic, but I think you’re misconstruing Ysayle’s/Shiva’s death. Did she go into it knowing she likely wouldn’t live? Highly possible. But I personally wouldn’t even classify that as a suicide. So, in my mind, what she did and what Zenos did aren’t even comparable.

That said, perhaps you should try to understand why people commit suicide in the first place. It is hardly ever because they are being selfish—and usually because they see no other way out of their suffering. I had a dear friend who chose to end his life a few years back, and it’s insulting to him and his memory for anyone to imply that he was being selfish with what he did. I can’t excuse it because I still can’t wrap my own head around the reasons why, but it’s no one’s place to call any suicide victim selfish.



On topic, I still stand by what I said in that trigger warnings aren’t needed. I welcome you to read the study I linked. And perhaps consider how they fail to do much to actually help people when it comes to healing. Teaching avoidance isn’t healing anything. It’s teaching you to hide.