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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    As a FC leader I will say no. You are taking away the right of the home onwer to decide if others can or cant tp directly to their home.
    No because this. If everyone else can own their own private estate, why shouldn't FC leaders? FC estates is shared property basically, you can't lock the doors and keep your FC members out. Everyone should have the ability to have their own form of privacy.
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    Terin's Avatar
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    Jared Kane
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    No because this. If everyone else can own their own private estate, why shouldn't FC leaders? FC estates is shared property basically, you can't lock the doors and keep your FC members out. Everyone should have the ability to have their own form of privacy.
    I mean... FC houses are literally no different, other than setting permissions. You could have the same permissions, or even more extensive if need be. At the end of the day, the FC house isn't *really* shared property, because the FC only has the permissions granted by the FC leader, which can be given or taken away at their discretion. No reason that would change at all.

    The ONLY difference is that FC leaders would not own separate houses; thus if you DO own a private estate AND a FC estate, you would either give one of them up, or give the FC estate to a trusted member. And if you don't have a member you would trust enough to give the estate to... well, that sounds kind of like a "second house" for you.
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    Arillyn Lovesong
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    This pops up periodically. I get it - there isn't enough housing. The answer isn't taking housing away from anyone - it's SE FIXING their housing so anyone who wants a house can have one.

    But if the player base wants to make the case for taking away housing ownership from anyone - it should be personal houses getting the boot and FC housing stays. And this is me saying that as an owner of a personal house. FC housing gives more people access to housing because multiple people are sharing and using that house - in some cases hundreds of people for the really large FCs.

    Also, some wards come 6.1 will be FC housing only per Yoshi (I don't remember if it was a live letter or during the digital fanfest where he stated that). So no, they aren't going to take away FC housing.
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    The ONLY difference is that FC leaders would not own separate houses; thus if you DO own a private estate AND a FC estate, you would either give one of them up, or give the FC estate to a trusted member. And if you don't have a member you would trust enough to give the estate to... well, that sounds kind of like a "second house" for you.
    Sorry I own a FC house and a personal right next to it on Spriggan. I am entitled to have my own private estate just like everyone else. I shouldn't have to share my house and call it a FC with everyone when they are able to own their own private houses and be a part of that FC.
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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    I mean... FC houses are literally no different, other than setting permissions. You could have the same permissions, or even more extensive if need be. At the end of the day, the FC house isn't *really* shared property, because the FC only has the permissions granted by the FC leader, which can be given or taken away at their discretion. No reason that would change at all.

    The ONLY difference is that FC leaders would not own separate houses; thus if you DO own a private estate AND a FC estate, you would either give one of them up, or give the FC estate to a trusted member. And if you don't have a member you would trust enough to give the estate to... well, that sounds kind of like a "second house" for you.
    FC members can buy their own rooms in an FC house. I dunno if you're lying or actually that incorrect.
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    Brightamethyst's Avatar
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    Jenna Starsong
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    FC estates is shared property basically, you can't lock the doors and keep your FC members out.
    You can, in fact, lock the doors and keep your FC members out. "Estate access" is a rank setting. There's nothing stopping someone from doing this.
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    You can, in fact, lock the doors and keep your FC members out. "Estate access" is a rank setting. There's nothing stopping someone from doing this.
    That permission no longer works with FC members. FC leads were abusing it keep FC members with rooms trapped in the FC.
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