Please remove MSQ dungeons from Mentor roulette

[Mithron]

I love being a Mentor. I love helping new players clear content. I'm happy to coach 7 green leafs through a synced Extreme trial.

But green leafs don't need my help watching cutscenes, and I'm not going to spend an hour doing so for 30 tomes. Those two dungeons are the only two pieces of content I refuse to do in the game because of the cutscene requirement, and while I like the cutscene requirement for enjoying the story as a new player, I want those two to specifically be exclusive to MSQ roulette given the nature of them.

I avoid MSQ roulette, no matter how good the rewards are, because I do not want to spend that much time watching cutscenes. I am happy spending an hour coaching green leafs through Ramuh extreme or King Moggle Mog extreme or Thordan extreme but not watching cutscenes. The time requirement of MSQ dungeons is far too much for Mentor roulette.

[Rongway]

Here's what I had to say about it the last time we had this conversation (about a month ago):
Thread: Please remove Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium from Mentor Roulette

You don't need mentors to help with duties that are steamroll-watchcutscene-steamroll-watchcutscene.
You don't need bodies to fill duties for which there is an entire roulette that is just those two duties and grants an obscene amount of XP.

Mentors are no more effective in DR:MainScenario than any other person who's ever completed it, are not needed to fill the party slots, and don't get any rewards worth mentioning for being trapped in a 45 minute cutscene dungeon.

I would be running DR:Mentor twenty times a day if it wasn't a Praetorium magnet. I'm not needed in Praetorium. Praetorium runs do not go any faster or smoother for new players with me sitting there watching cutscenes. My DPS and mechanical recall do make real dungeons and trials go faster and smoother. How many other mentors could be helping out in content where they can be helpful, but are avoiding DR:Mentor because Praetorium is a waste of their time and skills? "So don't run it" is about the worst stance you could take it when we could just take Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium out of the roulette, put mentors in duties where they actually matter, and increase DR:Mentor participation.

[Doozer]

Mentor roulette isn't for you, it's for them. Whether you're teaching them or watching cutscenes, you're there so they can do the content. Period.

[geekgirl101]

Mentor roulette isn't for you, it's for them. Whether you're teaching them or watching cutscenes, you're there so they can do the content. Period.

In the time it takes to explain mechanics in Prae everyone is already killing Lahabrea. Mentors have no place in CM or Prae, they are far too fast-paced and there's no real mechanics to them anyways as they're utter faceroll. I originally thought people were dropping out of CM because they wanted Prae and vice versa, but if it's popping up in mentor roulette I can perfectly understand why and I guarantee I would do the same if I got those under mentor roulette too for the very same reason - the penalty is shorter than the duration of those 2 dungeons and doing them in MSQ roulette once a day is more than enough.

[Doozer]

In the time it takes to explain mechanics in Prae everyone is already killing Lahabrea. Mentors have no place in CM or Prae, they are far too fast-paced and there's no real mechanics to them anyways as they're utter faceroll.

I didn't say people had to explain mechanics in there. I said doing the mentor roulette is so the people you get matched with can complete the duty, just like any other roulette. Not sure where the confusion is.

[Rongway]

I didn't say people had to explain mechanics in there. I said doing the mentor roulette is so the people you get matched with can complete the duty, just like any other roulette. Not sure where the confusion is.

They DON'T NEED US. DR:MainScenario is constantly populated. Put me in duties where I'm actually needed.

[Doozer]

They DON'T NEED US. DR:MainScenario is constantly populated. Put me in duties where I'm actually needed.

And yet, you're getting placed in those duties. So clearly they do need you. No need to get mad.

[Rongway]

And yet, you're getting placed in those duties. So clearly they do need you. No need to get mad.

Your conclusion is faulty. If the MainScenario dungeons were removed from DR:Mentor, the MainScenario dungeon queues would still fill without a significant increase in queue times. We're not needed; we are mismanaged.

Meanwhile, other queues that do need us are slower than they could be because we're not running DR:Mentor because DR:Mentor mismanages us and assigns us to cutscene duty.

[Doozer]

Your conclusion is faulty. If the MainScenario dungeons were removed from DR:Mentor, the MainScenario dungeon queues would still fill without a significant increase in queue times. We're not needed; we are mismanaged.

Meanwhile, other queues that do need us are slower than they could be because we're not running DR:Mentor because DR:Mentor mismanages us and assigns us to cutscene duty.

Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean my "conclusion is faulty". Mentor roulette is an amalgamation of all duties types specifically for people who've done them all so you can go where you're needed. Where you end up is where you're needed. Sorry. If you're so hellbent on helping people, join learning party PFs, do every roulette except MSQ and mentor, and give advice to people who need it. Unless there's something else you want from mentor roulette specifically?

[Kuroka]

If it would at least give roulett bonus every time and not just those lousy tome once....