Divine veil not working?

[AdamChattaway]

I cast it on myself then heal myself and the buff vanishes and no shield is given???

[Duskane]

PLD doesn't get the shield its for the party

[AC9Breaker]

great thread, will read again.

[Abomination713]

PLD is the ONLY tank to not benefit from their group protect skill. It's also the ONLY one with a heal gate requirement to cast it, that more often than not, you're casting Clemency on yourself to get it off when you want to since shields from healers do not set it off. It's ridiculous and that heal gate should have been removed a LONG time ago.

It is the strongest of the group protect skills among the tanks, so I can understand the PLD not getting it, but that heal gate? No good argument for that.

[RicaRuin]

PLD is the ONLY tank to not benefit from their group protect skill. It's also the ONLY one with a heal gate requirement to cast it, that more often than not, you're casting Clemency on yourself to get it off when you want to since shields from healers do not set it off. It's ridiculous and that heal gate should have been removed a LONG time ago.

It is the strongest of the group protect skills among the tanks, so I can understand the PLD not getting it, but that heal gate? No good argument for that.

From level 84 onwards you can actually use Holy Spirit to trigger the barrier effect, as Holy Spirit heals you.

[Abomination713]

From level 84 onwards you can actually use Holy Spirit to trigger the barrier effect, as Holy Spirit heals you.

I know this, but you better hope you're in the Magic phase when you have to pop it.

[NeoDivinity]

I know this, but you better hope you're in the Magic phase when you have to pop it.

having the ability to pre req and having the stacks last for 30 secs make it easy to fit it in if needed on an emergency, you may lose 1 FoF GCD of course but i mean, its 1 GCD inside FoF or a wipe on emergency situations

[Kentaro27]

Could someone please explain the bold part in the newly revised tool tip:


Upon HP recovery via healing magic cast by self or a party member, a protective barrier is cast on all party members within a radius of 15 yalms.
Duration: 30s
Barrier Effect: Prevents damage up to 10% of your maximum HP
Duration: 30s
Additional Effect: Restore target's HP
Cure Potency: 400
Effect ends upon casting barrier on self and nearby party members.


...what? The way this is worded makes it sound like as soon as Divine Veil is procd from the heal, the barrier is cast on the party members, but then the effect also ends upon casting the barrier, thereby nullifying the entire thing. Obviously this cant be the case, but this tool tip explanation is strange. I was also under the impression that the barrier cant be cast on yourself, so this makes it even more confusing.

[Rongway]

...what?

I know, our Action Helps are often organized poorly, and some of them need some serious redesign.

Divine Veil is meant to be parsed thusly:

Upon HP recovery via healing magic cast by self or a party member, a protective barrier is cast on all party members within a radius of 15 yalms.
Duration: 30s
    Barrier Effect: Prevents damage up to 10% of your maximum HP
                    Duration: 30s
    Additional Effect: Restore target's HP
                       Cure Potency: 400
Effect ends upon casting barrier on self and nearby party members.

"Effect ends..." belongs to Divine Veil proper, not the barrier. Without this line, one might think that for the whole 30s of Divine Veil, every time you receive a healing spell the barriers on party members are renewed. This specifies that once the barriers are deployed, Divine Veil proper expires so that it can only shield the party once.

The words "on self and" are probably a localization error, though, as the barriers only go on the rest of the party.

[Kentaro27]

I know, our Action Helps are often organized poorly, and some of them need some serious redesign.

Divine Veil is meant to be parsed thusly:

Upon HP recovery via healing magic cast by self or a party member, a protective barrier is cast on all party members within a radius of 15 yalms.
Duration: 30s
    Barrier Effect: Prevents damage up to 10% of your maximum HP
                    Duration: 30s
    Additional Effect: Restore target's HP
                       Cure Potency: 400
Effect ends upon casting barrier on self and nearby party members.

"Effect ends..." belongs to Divine Veil proper, not the barrier. Without this line, one might think that for the whole 30s of Divine Veil, every time you receive a healing spell the barriers on party members are renewed. This specifies that once the barriers are deployed, Divine Veil proper expires so that it can only shield the party once.

The words "on self and" are probably a localization error, though, as the barriers only go on the rest of the party.

I did finally make sense of it not long after making my post, but thanks for the confirmation