Thread: Please don't just cut off Garlean Empire trope or take too long with it.

Remember that feeling when you realized the Empire technological superiority, its enourmous recources and vastness as you climb Big Freaking Great Wall which they built just to devide continents as well as every time you see capital warships in lead of entire fleets.

As in narative shown in Endwalker trailer (if you watch before playthrough) I was hoping to see streets still being torn between survived military and their own ambitious war projects ("Skynet" automated robot army and production, omega replicas, clones, mutants, various machine prototypes, resonance supersoldiers, etc). With surviving leadership (Nerva?) hiding in "Enclave" bunker commanding soldiers in struggle to return control over empire defense and supply systems. I was hoping to see the Empire societal collapse with all its scientific and industrious superiority turning agaisnt it which was probably the end Allagans met which is a bit poetic and by the way become popular depiction of real world end.

I still see how it can be shown in other "industrial capitals" of the empire which can even be larger then the political one. Where empire remnants and fanatics are still trying to restore order.

Fanfiction besides, if I see various magitek tech in hands of mercenaries or emprie legions becoming merceneries themselves (with custom paint over its magitek machinery as future mounts; ) - that will make me very happy already.

Originally Posted by Boys

Remember that feeling when you realized the Empire technological superiority, its enourmous recources and vastness as you climb Big Freaking Great Wall which they built just to devide continents as well as every time you see capital warships in lead of entire fleets.

As in narative shown in Endwalker trailer (if you watch before playthrough) I was hoping to see streets still being torn between survived military and their own ambitious war projects ("Skynet" automated robot army and production, omega replicas, clones, mutants, various machine prototypes, resonance supersoldiers, etc). With surviving leadership (Nerva?) hiding in "Enclave" bunker commanding soldiers in struggle to return control over empire defense and supply systems. I was hoping to see the Empire societal collapse with all its scientific and industrious superiority turning agaisnt it which was probably the end Allagans met which is a bit poetic and by the way become popular depiction of real world end.

I still see how it can be shown in other "industrial capitals" of the empire which can even be larger then the political one. Where empire remnants and fanatics are still trying to restore order.

Fanfiction besides, if I see various magitek tech in hands of mercenaries or emprie legions becoming merceneries themselves (with custom paint over its magitek machinery as future mounts; ) - that will make me very happy already.

We may not start seeing these aspects until we reach the regions where remnents of the Garlean Empire were left stranded after they lost contact with the Garlean Empire. Anyone in the Garlean Empire who would want to cause such issues in their current situation are most likely dead at this point due to the horde of monsters since they let their Garlean Pride make them take actions that guarantee their deaths.

It has been mentioned before the Garlean Empire has stationed themselves in places beyond Eorzea and once the Empire fell, their status remain unknown for now. How these remnents are handling their situation may vary but from many different types of stories dealing with such situations from other series, it may vary from becoming Warlords, adapting to their new home, trying to keep tradition, or using this opportunity for a fresh start based on the type of leader who is stationed in those locations.

We seen a bit of this with Gabranth and his faction as they plan to start fresh in a certain regions but that story will take time to be continued though people are hoping it maybe a new Expansion when it finally does.

Garlemald was half undone by internal strife, half by an outside manipulator (Fandaniel played both sides of the latest Garlean Civil War against each other).

... but yeah, as far as we know the Empire never extended beyond the Three Great Continents and so is unlikely to have any presence in Tural based on that. We may return for some ancillary stories and there's almost certainly going to be an Ishgard-style restoration project at some point, but the Empire's story largely concluded in Endwalker.

Originally Posted by Boys

Remember that feeling when you realized the Empire technological superiority, its enourmous recources and vastness as you climb Big Freaking Great Wall which they built just to devide continents as well as every time you see capital warships in lead of entire fleets.

I don't, actually. 'Evil empire with fancy tech in an otherwise fantasy setting' is such a well-worn RPG trope that it no longer registers to me unless you do something interesting with it; I legitimately don't remember any responses I had to Empire stuff (outside of them shooting down Shiva but that's for different reasons) until Yotsuyu turned up. FFXIV took until Endwalker to find that 'something interesting', and that something happened to be to blow it up and check out the ruins. Hell, it kinda hurts them that they're not even the most advanced tech force in the game; Allag has been leaving Garlemald in its shadow ever since Azys Lla for me, and Allag isn't even alive anymore.

Yes, the Garleans deserve a nice, fuller wrapup of their story; it'll be interesting to see how they pick back up and rebuild, provided that their answer is not 'more caestrums'. Anyone trying to rebuild the Empire as it was is the worst thing they could do.

But on the other hand, we deserve a break from the Garleans. The Garleans have been a significant part of the MSQ for every single part of it, and the focus of at least one piece of tentpole side content for every single expansion until Endwalker. They're the most pervasive part of the game world by far; at least the Ascians and Scions skipped out a few times. One of the most exciting parts about Dawntrail to me is seeing what this game can be without the overarching story and villains it's had all this time, and the Garleans are a part of that.