Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
I'm not sure why that would be 'frustrating' since most of that 'suffering' took place in the past and isn't remotely comparable to the extent of the suffering endured by the majority of the antagonists.

I think it's pretty safe to suggest that it's a bigger deal for someone to lose their entire family, their friends, their neighbours, their pets and their culture/society as a whole.

It's perfectly possible to sympathise with individual losses, of course, but it comes across as narcissistic preaching for the Scions to claim to have lost 'so much' when things have gone their way more often than not and everything ultimately wraps up in a neat little bow with minimal lasting consequences. As such, much of the 'burdens' they are speaking about are applicable to other people and nations.

On your list, only Krile really comes close to that and she wasn't present during the game's final stretch by virtue of not really being much of a fighter.
Yes, I do agree that if we compare immortal beings millennia old to people who live for less than a century and die, that in terms of total traumatic events one will eclipse the other.

But, and perhaps this is subjective, suffering is not a point value like XP. The Ancients that have made comments in the subject look at the short lives the sundered have and remark on how it’s a more difficult existence than their own. Some are awed by the strength of people to continue moving forward. Others, like the unsundered, look at the sundered as beings subjected to unworthy, painful lives, better off dead in the end. If both sides can make those judgements given all they’ve suffered, and given their clear disagreement on the worthiness of those lives, there must be more to this than simply a numbers comparison.

For the rest of the antagonists I would push back against the idea that they all suffered so dearly that comparisons between them and the Scions are insulting or laughable.