Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
This is why a story shouldn't have both time loop and multi timeline, because one of them will not make sense.
Agreed.

Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
So, take the whole game into consideration. This line of reasoning becomes very flimsy. Why? Because the Ancients have the Echo. They can control it at will. Sure, Hyth and Emet had their memories wiped, but if Venat presented herself and said, "Look into my memories, and the memories of the traveler." They would then see and feel exactly what we felt in Ktsis Hyperboreia. They would see and feel the WoL defending Hythlodaeus. They would see Meteion streaking off into the cosmos.

This power that every Ancient possesses is conveniently sidelined in the most egregious way, since Venat makes use of it just a few quests earlier to see Hermes speaking to Meteion about launching her sisters off into the cosmos. They all possess this ability. To see and experience the memories of others through the environment and their living aether. We ourselves have inadvertently used it to resolve earlier plots in the game hundreds of times. Yet in this instance it had to be discarded so that the narrative could be obeyed, while the writers pray that we somehow don't notice it.

It would have been easy to fix. Just have Venat lose her memory and create Hydaelyn completely of her own volition. OR just have her try it, only for something with the Memory Wiping spells impact how her memories are perceived as well, leading to reasonable doubt. They just had to nip this hole in the bud with one or two lines or one extra cutscene, and they did not. It is insulting.
Yep, so at that point you're left with one possible rationale - preservation of the original timeline. They are basically forcing it in that direction and for me, it doesn't help me sympathise with the way she's handling it.