New patch and still no positionals back on MNK!

[ssunny2008]

Common SE... don´t leave MNK in this boring design. Give us positionals back, so we have something to take care about. Blitz isn´t that hard to manage that the removal of positionals is justified and on top half of the existing Endwalker-bosses have a full-ring anyway.

[Theox]

Yeah I think they gave up on positionals completely. There are probably lots of people who are jumping into mnk right now because positionals are no more, devs should be happy methinks

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

If you are expecting them to add the positionals back to Monk, you are going to be sorely disappointed.

I don't think Monk suffers from boring design (this is obviously subjective) the sped up GCD adds a lot (1.94 is the sweet spot right now) and I feel that chakra builds fast enough that you feel busy most of the time, the Blitz skills also feel impactful, especially at 90, I've been playing around with it and I'm enjoying it a lot. Personally I would have preferred it if they kept the positionals for bootshine/dragon kick like in the media tour build, but I feel the job has built a stronger foundation to stand on than just having lots of positional requirements.

Not to mention my monkey brain hasn't adjusted at all and I still hit all the old spots like I used to, so it doesn't feel like much has changed in that aspect.

[Cabalabob]

Honestly what positionals that are left in the game at this point just exist to justify having true north to ignore them.

[ssunny2008]

If you are expecting them to add the positionals back to Monk, you are going to be sorely disappointed.

I don't think Monk suffers from boring design (this is obviously subjective) the sped up GCD adds a lot (1.94 is the sweet spot right now) and I feel that chakra builds fast enough that you feel busy most of the time, the Blitz skills also feel impactful, especially at 90, I've been playing around with it and I'm enjoying it a lot. Personally I would have preferred it if they kept the positionals for bootshine/dragon kick like in the media tour build, but I feel the job has built a stronger foundation to stand on than just having lots of positional requirements.

Not to mention my monkey brain hasn't adjusted at all and I still hit all the old spots like I used to, so it doesn't feel like much has changed in that aspect.

- Yes i expect it. Monks playerbase didn´t increased so far, if anything it has become even lower especially for a complete rework. Overall old MNK mains seem to think the same.

- We had faster MNK´s than 1,94 before. This GCD is nothing new.

- MNK has nothing to do out of PB windows and even chakra seem to happen overall less with brotherhood on 120s and less DK/BS spam. Imo the burstphase feels even to the same before with less to do thx to 0 oGCD´s.

- Positional give us something to do. In and out of burstphases and they´re far better than pressing more buttons called oGCD´s. They bring something to the gameplay and do even help to perform your rotation better.

- Blitz would´ve been a nice addition if we still would´ve ALL positionals left, but instead we got Blitz without anything, wuhu...

Honestly what positionals that are left in the game at this point just exist to justify having true north to ignore them.

Using 10s TN for that 1 time Demo or SP every 3 minutes feels like a trashplay anyway... RoE ftw!

[Kolsykol]

There were no Job changes at all except for a bug fix on NIN and SCH sound.

the sped up GCD adds a lot (1.94 is the sweet spot right now)

No they didn't, it was the same in Shadowbringers.

[Misutoraru]

Not a monk main, never a monk main anyway. I do occasionally run my monk for normal and alliance raid for fun.

Occasionally I mess up my positional, or oGCD clipped
when I try monk again in EW, yeah I run smoother, feel much easier to play, but I feel there’s something lacking.

from ARR to ShB even I do not main it, the feeling of positional is a core mechanism for monk just grew in my mind. The “dancing between positional” is what make monk fun for me

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

No they didn't, it was the same in Shadowbringers.

I'm saying they have a faster GCD relative to the other dps jobs, I know they made the base GCD 2s in ShB, probably should have clarified.

[Navnav]

I am not gonna come off as a douche this time, but I really do not believe they will ever come back. After playing monk for some time now and getting the rotation down, you lot are right in that it is very easy, once you just memorise the random af opener, however after that it is easily manageable.
Though I don't think positionals are the answer here. For starters I think they could do something with RoW, by making it a 25% reduction in recast times for weapon skills. Just to give monk some much needed oomf. They could also make SSS an oGCD that increases next blitz by 30% but with a short duration buff, so you have to use it in your busy period.
They could also change up chakras a bit too by making the two positionals you do have guarentee a chakra, just so that you get more oGCDs, along with Howling Fist as a standard AoE oGCD if elixer field must be a blitz.

[ForteNightshade]

- Yes i expect it.

Prepare to be disappointed then. Much like DoTs were entirely neutered on Bard whose prior nuances in SB were gutted, they aren't going to give back what many more casual players hated. Especially as they changed Riddle of Earth to boot. I suspect the intent is they want Monk's new identity to focus on Blitz not positionals.