I HATE THIS!!! (Massive Raid Spoilers)

[Nekaru_Infitima]

It's one thing to create characters, make you love them, give them death flags and watch them die.

It's an entirely new form of cruel abuse for the story-lover to create characters, make you love them WHILE KNOWING THEY DIE AND YOU CAN'T SAVE THEM.

Emet's group I get it, it was great to pal around with him and Hythlo and Venat, ....tell them their future of dying to cause tearjerking sentimentality and know you can't save them, and then see them off one more time. Everyone wanted to know about them.

BUT NOW we get part 2 of that. Elidibus who a lot of people felt sorry for but didn't really like now becomes your best buddy! Then we got Lahabrea's son to add to the mix and let's give the giant reminder THESE ARE DEAD CHARACTERS, these are characters you know die, in a time you can't save. But you know what Square is going to do?

Make them super lovable, well developed, and realistic like your own best friend.

...so it hurts even worse when the quest chain is over and 'that's the end.'

You know because they're already dead.

T_T

[DamianFatale]

That's what happens when you time travel silly. What were you expecting?

[Powercow]

I sense there's going to be a twist coming, and it'll likely just make it even worse for you.

Remember -- we know almost *nothing* about the Lahabrea who died in HW.

But we do know "Lahabrea" is just a title, one that can apparently be passed to family members if they're qualified...

[Nekaru_Infitima]

I sense there's going to be a twist coming, and it'll likely just make it even worse for you.

Remember -- we know almost *nothing* about the Lahabrea who died in HW.

But we do know "Lahabrea" is just a title, one that can apparently be passed to family members if they're qualified...

Yeah I thought about that. What if the son became the new one, and we killed the son.

[Listrella]

Yeah I thought about that. What if the son became the new one, and we killed the son.

people keep forgetting, it's thordan who killed Lahabrea, not us.

[Larirawiel]

people keep forgetting, it's thordan who killed Lahabrea, not us.

It is not so clear whether Lahabrea died or not. In the cutscene you see that he starts a teleport spell and Thordan hits the dark teleport cloud. Maybe parts of Lahabrea survived the attack.

/10 chars

Cheers

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

It is not so clear whether Lahabrea died or not. In the cutscene you see that he starts a teleport spell and Thordan hits the dark teleport cloud. Maybe parts of Lahabrea survived the attack.

/10 chars

Cheers

I extremely doubt that.

If even a part of Lahabrea survived, Elidibus would have almost certainly known. he makes the whole spiel about how he's the last of the unsundered when you encounter him in 5.3 and that Lahabrea & Emet-Selch paid the ultimate price. Also, in said cutscene you reference, Lahabrea takes the full bunt of the attack first with a dying-esque scream, then explodes into a huge dark cloud, which then you see Ascalon viciously absorbing a moment later, and then thordan makes his 'even Ascian souls can be used as fuel' line. Seems like a ton of grandiose efforts and steps to choreograph and then later reinforce with Elidibus's choice of words nearly two expansions later if lahabrea wasn't fully dead.

[RyuDragnier]

I sense there's going to be a twist coming, and it'll likely just make it even worse for you.

Remember -- we know almost *nothing* about the Lahabrea who died in HW.

But we do know "Lahabrea" is just a title, one that can apparently be passed to family members if they're qualified...

Makes me wonder...

What if the kid isn't the Lahabrea we know, but instead Nabriales? The guy DID take us to a rift where he had Minfillia bound and then tried to seal us in that inverse world...

[SamsaraTrickstar]

So at last for you SE did a good job.whst the problem? You want this to be Dragonball where no one ever dead or you want the characters to be trash?

[Nekaru_Infitima]

So at last for you SE did a good job.whst the problem? You want this to be Dragonball where no one ever dead or you want the characters to be trash?

I don't know. Obviously 'hate' was overexaggerating in joking.

But it sucks to befriend them only to know they're dead.

Multiverse theory would at least have made a new timeline for them to live (even though I know it wouldn't have worked better than the self-fulfilling prophecy).
Maybe an afterlife to go to and hang out, or reborn with you able to give them their memories or something.

I just don't want to get to the end and it be over. I had 4 expacs with the Scions, I got like 2 adventures with the people of the past.

Or at least, make us hate them as enemies, and not "hey these dead guys are your new best buddies!"

(On a side note though I still love DBZ.)