Why do "Standard Controls" players still need to face target but not "Legacy Control"

[Talinthis]

I have been using standard for 5 years, and after i started going for the necromancer title it was really causing me problems and caused me to almost die a myriad of times. I was wondering why people streaming weren't having this issue until someone told me. I didnt even know about it. If anyone wants to know how my run went, my computer froze at floor 181 and i have not reattempted because i dont know why it happened. Dont want to go through 8 hours of floors to have it freeze again.

[Harriks]

I am scared to get used to "legacy" because legacy makes it sound like something that is going to be removed

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I am scared to get used to "legacy" because legacy makes it sound like something that is going to be removed

It's the default if you use a controller, so for everyone who plays on console.

It's been in for 8 years. It's not getting removed lol.

[Rayinfluense]

A lot of players are saying "Just switch to legacy", you'll get used to it. Well that's kind of my point.. The standard controls are just shitty in comparison but I know many people like myself, prefer standard controls. (One reason is that you can turn the camera while running in a straight line. On Legacy, you would have to hold S instead of W if you wanna run towards the camera for example, but on standard you can keep holding W while turning the camera.

And also, I don't see any reason to make standard controls shitty, if there's supposed to be some kind of "tradeoff". I know so many, especially new players who are confused why the standard controls are as bad as they are.

[Rayinfluense]

A lot of players are saying "Just switch to legacy", you'll get used to it. Well that's kind of my point.. The standard controls are just shitty in comparison but I know many people like myself, prefer standard controls. (One reason is that you can turn the camera while running in a straight line. On Legacy, you would have to hold S instead of W if you wanna run towards the camera for example, but on standard you can keep holding W while turning the camera.

And also, I don't see any reason to make standard controls shitty, if there's supposed to be some kind of "tradeoff". I know so many, especially new players who are confused why the standard controls are as bad as they are.

It's actually kinda sad how most of you see a bad mechanic, agree that it's bad, and just tell people to ignore it and use something else and ask them to stop complaining about it being bad. If it turns people off from the game shouldn't it be considered a problem? Especially when it's the DEFAULT SETTING on Windows version.

[nelothi]

It's actually kinda sad how most of you see a bad mechanic, agree that it's bad, and just tell people to ignore it and use something else and ask them to stop complaining about it being bad. If it turns people off from the game shouldn't it be considered a problem? Especially when it's the DEFAULT SETTING on Windows version.

its only bad because you have to use auto face in FF.
for one reason or another (not sure why myself..) FF is designed around having an attack cone that is not 180° - they could change that.. but im not sure why they dont have that in the first place.
untill that gets addressed - use legacy. it feels way better.

[Rayinfluense]

its only bad because you have to use auto face in FF.
for one reason or another (not sure why myself..) FF is designed around having an attack cone that is not 180° - they could change that.. but im not sure why they dont have that in the first place.
untill that gets addressed - use legacy. it feels way better.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You say "Until that gets adressed".. It's been like this for 8 years; I want it to be adressed that's why I'm posting. I think you're the only one who understand my comment.

I know that using Legacy controls is a "workaround" or "hotfix" and I made that clear in the post so I don't know why people are telling me to switch.

[BluexBird]

A lot of players are saying "Just switch to legacy", you'll get used to it. Well that's kind of my point.. The standard controls are just shitty in comparison but I know many people like myself, prefer standard controls. (One reason is that you can turn the camera while running in a straight line. On Legacy, you would have to hold S instead of W if you wanna run towards the camera for example, but on standard you can keep holding W while turning the camera.

And also, I don't see any reason to make standard controls shitty, if there's supposed to be some kind of "tradeoff". I know so many, especially new players who are confused why the standard controls are as bad as they are.

Uhm... hello? On Legacy, you don't HAVE to hold S instead of W if you wanna run towards the camera. You can just keep holding W and turn the camera. The S is there as an option in case you don't want to turn the camera...

Like I honestly don't get what your point is. On Standard, A and D turn the camera... but people just hold down the right mouse button to turn the camera anyway WHILE turning their character at the same time. Not only that, but holding the right mouse button turns A and D into strafe keys... WHICH HAPPENS BY DEFAULT IN LEGACY MODE!

EDIT: Actually, for those who play on Standard, during a fight you're mostly just holding down the right mouse button most of the time, because it's how you control the camera and turn your character when you're running.

So at the end of the day, functionally and practically speaking, the ONLY THING that changes when you change from Standard into Legacy mode, is that the S key now makes you run backwards towards the camera instead of slowly backing up. And I dunno about you, but I'm pretty sure the backwards run is A LOT more useful during fights where I'm trying to avoid a gaze mechanic and keep the boss in my screen.

[Rayinfluense]

Uhm... hello? On Legacy, you don't HAVE to hold S instead of W if you wanna run towards the camera. You can just keep holding W and turn the camera. The S is there as an option in case you don't want to turn the camera...

Like I honestly don't get what your point is. On Standard, A and D turn the camera... but people just hold down the right mouse button to turn the camera anyway WHILE turning their character at the same time. Not only that, but holding the right mouse button turns A and D into strafe keys... WHICH HAPPENS BY DEFAULT IN LEGACY MODE!

EDIT: Actually, for those who play on Standard, during a fight you're mostly just holding down the right mouse button most of the time, because it's how you control the camera and turn your character when you're running.

So at the end of the day, functionally and practically speaking, the ONLY THING that changes when you change from Standard into Legacy mode, is that the S key now makes you run backwards towards the camera instead of slowly backing up. And I dunno about you, but I'm pretty sure the backwards run is A LOT more useful during fights where I'm trying to avoid a gaze mechanic and keep the boss in my screen.

If this is true, I didn't know about it. When I select Legacy controls, hold W, and turn the camera, the character turns with the camera and will always run away form the camera, never towards unless I hold S. Is there a different keybind I'm supposed to be using?