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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    At first glance, I laughed, but then when I saw this was likely posted in retaliation to https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...discord-server, I think the idea is toxic. The girls only server is a WONDERFUL idea, but sadly from what we have seen they are actually being problematic to LGBT+ people, and that is not okay.

    This however perpetuates the same idea on the other side of the coin, and promotes satire of people who actually need safe spaces, and I think thats not a very kind thing to do. Safe spaces don't make us weak, they actually make us strong, because when we meet likeminded people we can heal and work together. I think that you guys should really think about the message you're trying to convey.
    If there's one thing I've learned is that the people that would drive us to create community outside of the general population have absolutely no concept of the reasons why we would want them. They literally can not understand our point of view because their experiences in life have taught them that life is, well, actually pretty easy in regards to how people treat them. There's no wounds for them to heal from, and if we mention our wounds (that most often people like them have given us) they will refuse to believe they exist, and belittle us for claiming them. All while openly mocking us, because when someone is saying they need healing they'd rather try to wound them more.

    The best thing to do is point it out, and then let them wallow in their muck.
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    Wow, way to be completely unpleasant as a person. If you think only one gender has a hard time then you also don't understand the problems of others ( caused by people like you.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruhai View Post
    Wow, way to be completely unpleasant as a person. If you think only one gender has a hard time then you also don't understand the problems of others ( caused by people like you.)
    You'll notice how my post mentioned no gender whatsoever.

    Quote Originally Posted by RatKing View Post
    No the people that are mad at you were the people that told you to just make a community for yourself instead of constantly expecting existing ones that are unfamiliar with people like you to bend over backwards to use your terms, pronouns etc. You spring that on an existing community and expect anything but retaliation and then quite literally start witch hunts on twitter if there is a community that does not want to embrace you or deal with your baggage constantly.

    And immediately here is the proof of concept.

    I'm sorry that pronouns and referring to people how they'd like to be referred as is a difficult thing for you to process, and I don't know what about my post made you claim I started witch hunts on twitter, and honestly the way you're reacting to what I said with this much projection I really don't want to deal with your baggage either, Champ.

    There's a whole lot of you in your response that has nothing to do with what I said.
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    Last edited by Exosapien; 12-20-2021 at 08:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exosapien View Post
    If there's one thing I've learned is that the people that would drive us to create community outside of the general population have absolutely no concept of the reasons why we would want them. They literally can not understand our point of view because their experiences in life have taught them that life is, well, actually pretty easy in regards to how people treat them. There's no wounds for them to heal from, and if we mention our wounds (that most often people like them have given us) they will refuse to believe they exist, and belittle us for claiming them. All while openly mocking us, because when someone is saying they need healing they'd rather try to wound them more.

    The best thing to do is point it out, and then let them wallow in their muck.
    Agreed, Im also starting to think that it would be best if the GMs started locking threads here more often. It's getting old seeing such hateful bait left to rot. People do it because they know they can get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Agreed, Im also starting to think that it would be best if the GMs started locking threads here more often. It's getting old seeing such hateful bait left to rot. People do it because they know they can get away with it.
    Agreed
    I think you should not get away with your hate against men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thari View Post
    Agreed
    I think you should not get away with your hate against men.
    I love how "Please don't mock us"

    Translates to "Let's hate men" for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thari View Post
    Agreed
    I think you should not get away with your hate against men.
    I don't hate men. I don't hate women. I hate bigots.
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    My name is Chad in real life so I’m down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    My name is Chad in real life so I’m down.
    I couldn't remember what I posted in this thread. Glad it wasn't something too stupid.
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    i wish the forums were a safe space from the people who post on it
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