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  1. #31
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    Adonan's Avatar
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    Klifur Yadai
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    If this is just satire as you claim, then I apologize for my belligerent behavior. These days, people rarely joke about this kind of thing.
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  2. #32
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    Friel Wyndor
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    I know this is a joke, but it's "Facebook Boomer" levels of cringe. You might as well tell me about Men's Rights, Steak & BJ Day, and White History Month while you're at it.
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  3. #33
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    Nekaru Infitima
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    The only issue I see with the guys only server is that it's already been done.

    Last I checked, the freemasons were the guys only group (the only one I actually wish I could infiltrate lol.)
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    Name Meaning:
    Nekaru = Neko + Hikaru
    Infitima = Infinity + Ultima

  4. #34
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    Arctura Fengari
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    At first glance, I laughed, but then when I saw this was likely posted in retaliation to https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...discord-server, I think the idea is toxic. The girls only server is a WONDERFUL idea, but sadly from what we have seen they are actually being problematic to LGBT+ people, and that is not okay.

    This however perpetuates the same idea on the other side of the coin, and promotes satire of people who actually need safe spaces, and I think thats not a very kind thing to do. Safe spaces don't make us weak, they actually make us strong, because when we meet likeminded people we can heal and work together. I think that you guys should really think about the message you're trying to convey.
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  5. #35
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    Lala Felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    Last I checked, the freemasons were the guys only group (the only one I actually wish I could infiltrate lol.)
    It's complex, but there is little to stop you if you wish to become a Mason. Most Grand Orient lodges outside North America have not been male only spaces since about 1890. North America trails the Continental lodges in this, so there are a few more male only lodges in the USA... but it's still very possible to join a mixed lodge should you want it.

    Just be good and true, of mature and discreet age with sound judgement, not immoral or scandalous, but of good report.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  6. #36
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    ThunderGodThor's Avatar
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    Damien Dread
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    At first glance, I laughed, but then when I saw this was likely posted in retaliation to https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...discord-server, I think the idea is toxic. The girls only server is a WONDERFUL idea, but sadly from what we have seen they are actually being problematic to LGBT+ people, and that is not okay.

    This however perpetuates the same idea on the other side of the coin, and promotes satire of people who actually need safe spaces, and I think thats not a very kind thing to do. Safe spaces don't make us weak, they actually make us strong, because when we meet likeminded people we can heal and work together. I think that you guys should really think about the message you're trying to convey.
    Bugger off. You've no issue with excluding men, but you have an issue with excluding LGBT people. Either it's all ok, or none of it is. FYI, I'm fine with clubs or groups centred around an immutable characteristic, so long as everyone is given the ability to make their own for their own groups.
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  7. #37
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    Thari Sternensturz
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    At first glance, I laughed, but then when I saw this was likely posted in retaliation to https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...discord-server, I think the idea is toxic. The girls only server is a WONDERFUL idea, but sadly from what we have seen they are actually being problematic to LGBT+ people, and that is not okay.

    This however perpetuates the same idea on the other side of the coin, and promotes satire of people who actually need safe spaces, and I think thats not a very kind thing to do. Safe spaces don't make us weak, they actually make us strong, because when we meet likeminded people we can heal and work together. I think that you guys should really think about the message you're trying to convey.
    I need a safe space from people like you - because i get serious brain dmg...

    To exclude men is fine but OOhhh we cannot exclude LGBT that is a NONO

    Srsly you want to battle discrimination but you do the exact same thing. How do you Justify that? Are all men dangerous in your opinion?
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  8. #38
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    Brielle Artemus
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    My name is Chad in real life so I’m down.
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  9. #39
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    At first glance, I laughed, but then when I saw this was likely posted in retaliation to https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...discord-server, I think the idea is toxic. The girls only server is a WONDERFUL idea, but sadly from what we have seen they are actually being problematic to LGBT+ people, and that is not okay.

    This however perpetuates the same idea on the other side of the coin, and promotes satire of people who actually need safe spaces, and I think thats not a very kind thing to do. Safe spaces don't make us weak, they actually make us strong, because when we meet likeminded people we can heal and work together. I think that you guys should really think about the message you're trying to convey.
    The problem is "safe space" is very ambiguous. What this means is different to everyone. There was no effort made in that post to show how and why the space is safe. The person did not care enough to even briefly outline their rules and/or goals. They relied on buzzwords to reel people in. Bereft of detail the reader is left to guess what the community is like, and unfortunately some will be naive enough to just assume it's going to be their idea of what a safe space is even though the post doesn't elaborate on anything. And without any effort put in to illustrate a mental image of what the community is like it comes off as little other than a "no boys allowed!" club.

    "Bros Only Server" is just as ambiguous and is commentary on how blatantly unclear that post about that ladies only discord server is, and it also seeks to appear as a mirror for the "no boys allowed!" impression by advertising themselves as being only for people who are a bro, a term typically applied to men.

    EDIT: hilariously this satire post gives more detail than the post that inspired the satire!
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    Last edited by Penthea; 12-20-2021 at 06:04 PM.

  10. #40
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    Misha Reines
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    At first glance, I laughed, but then when I saw this was likely posted in retaliation to https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...discord-server, I think the idea is toxic. The girls only server is a WONDERFUL idea, but sadly from what we have seen they are actually being problematic to LGBT+ people, and that is not okay.

    This however perpetuates the same idea on the other side of the coin, and promotes satire of people who actually need safe spaces, and I think thats not a very kind thing to do. Safe spaces don't make us weak, they actually make us strong, because when we meet likeminded people we can heal and work together. I think that you guys should really think about the message you're trying to convey.
    the msg is pretty clear imo

    only bros allowed and that's perfect, is a "safe space" for bros
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