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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    Here's an interesting question to ponder.

    Say there is a ginger-haired group and blonde-haired group. As we all know both get made fun of but in different ways, different experiences they had to deal with.

    Now you have Subject-A who is blonde naturally and had to deal with blonde jokes. Subject-B natural ginger, had to deal with ginger jokes.

    A dyes their hair ginger, B dyes their hair blonde. They both try to join the opposite group.

    Are they to suddenly be accepted now that they fit in? Do they suddenly know the hardships of dealing with the type of teasing they got?

    Now apply it to girls-only and boys-only.
    Imo in this particular situation the girls need to set up their own group.
    However if the group didn't know they weren't natural then it is none of their business as long as they have similar experiences and aren't dismissive.
    Because largely being made of of because your hair is blonde or ginger is still you getting your hair made fun of.
    It would make more sense in the analogy if one girl was getting made fun of because of her hair and the other girl was getting made fun of because of her nails.
    But that still falls under you being made fun of because of your body.

    So really it just comes down to how your group to discriminate who is allowed in. Personal preference.

    I think the direct real life example of this would be people who present as male can be in the boy scouts and vice versa but having people who present as girls in the boyscouts or who present as boys in the girlscouts isn't the same.
    Then there's also the discussion of distinction where in does this line stop because there are biological differences that can't be changed, so can feminine presenting but biologically male people be allowed in the female bathrooms or be allowed to participate in female sports, or be allowed in females prisons.

    I think it's a very convoluted issue where in no solution/fix should be put in place without taking it to its natural conclusion first. Until then things like unisex bathrooms, groups, and sports are the way to go for this particular issue.
    Transgressing on something already in place instead of making your own is not the way.
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    Last edited by Nethereal; 12-20-2021 at 01:14 PM.

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