FFXIV Girls only discord server

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Because I am not okay with Sexism. Don't worry, I don't want to join the server. I simply disagree as a principle.

Do you think it would be perfectly acceptable if I made a discord server that didn't allow black people to join? What If I opened a shop only for white people? For some reason, it's socially acceptable to discriminate against men and I am not okay with that.

No, but if there was a server that was for black people only who would be against it? A marginalised group wanting a space AWAY from the one's who marginalise them is nothing new and is totally fine to me. It is a place they want to have and be in due to shared experiences with their peers.

Sorry but there are plenty spaces that cater to men, gentlemens clubs meant for men, higher up in plenty companies is all men, places that might allow women but are not safe or welcoming to women in the least, sex based spaces exist everywhere, toilets, sports teams etc. You are not being refused a job, you are not a victim of a hate crime because you cannot join a discord meant for women as a man. And even then, this particular discord allows men entry in a more limited fashion.
Don't act as though people are against men because of a single sex based discord.

[Xrystofer]

No, but if there was a server that was for black people only who would be against it? A marginalised group wanting a space AWAY from the one's who marginalise them is nothing new and is totally fine to me.

Who did I marginalize? Please tell me.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Who did I marginalize? Please tell me.

Please, don't be purposefully ignorant. Not every man or white person is a racist or sexist, we are all aware of that. Wanting a safe space away from those groups is still understandable regardless. And if you were so virtuous you would be supportive of them instead of taking it personally.

You sound like every person who says "but I didn't" or "not all x" misdirecting from the actual issue at hand because you are so concerned with yourself rather than the people who are actual victims. The fact of the matter is that men and white people DO marginalise these other groups (again not all of them), so it should be no shock when people within those communities want a space without them. If you are white or male you should recognise that there are people within your community who do bad things and work together to rectify such behaviours rather than deflect with 'I didn't do it', plenty men around me wouldn't do such things but they DONT call out their male friends who act like total creeps, they don't report their crimes to police. And for some the lesson comes to late when a male friend has r*ped one of their female friends, only then did they realise their mistake.

[Xrystofer]

Please, don't be purposefully ignorant. Not every man or white person is a racist or sexist, we are all aware of that. Wanting a safe space away from those groups is still understandable regardless. And if you were so virtuous you would be supportive of them instead of taking it personally.

Explain to me why I can't join that community. You said that they want to get away from people that have marginalized them. Therefore, I am being judged by the color of my skin rather than my actions. Do you realize now how that is the definition of racism?

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Explain to me why I can't join that community. You said that they want to get away from people that have marginalized them. Therefore, I am being judged by the color of my skin rather than my actions. Do you realize now how that is the definition of racism?

The Oxford Dictionary defines it as, "Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." However, this is a simplified explanation of a complex issue.

Black people having a black only server is NOT them stating their belief that black is superior to white, or for women saying men are inferior with a womens only discord. As the quote states it is a complex issue and everyone with any sense will realise that "safe spaces" are not sexist or racist, simply those groups wanting a place to feel safe for a change. If you are white or male you cannot join because people within your community have been jerks and rather than take issue with that, you are all mimimimimi.

What exactly of your actions so far should say you should be welcome? You are FAR more concerned with yourself and trying to also make yourself a victim or men/white people a victim. Rather than have an ounce of empathy for the people who have experienced marginalisation from those groups. You rather handily ignored my other post saying there are PLENTY men's only spaces, sex based spaces exist for good reason. You are very clearly just out to stir sh*t than be remotely productive.

Literally cannot let people be and that's the problem, so concerned with yourself. You sound like the professional victims on twitter out to be offended at anything they can.