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    Aelin_Ashryver's Avatar
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    So... react?

    Instead of moping around, and retreating into your own "safe space": speak up. Point out to men who disrespect women that they are acting like horny teenagers. Educate your friends around you, to give more support to these demands.

    By deserting community spaces, you are letting those who wish you weren't there win.

    So much for the little activist rant (which is still sincere, though).

    But in concrete terms: beware of the ambient paranoia. Do harassment and dirty jokes exist on MMORPGs? Of course it does. Are they omnipresent? I don't think so. Be careful not to do like those people who had ONE toxic experience in a dungeon, and conclude that the whole community is to blame.
    Who said I don't? Do you realise how hard that is to do in certain environments such as your workplace where retribution is often rampant? Frankly, the belittlement of the "safe space" is uncalled for, I am not in the mood to constantly be correcting the crap that people spew on a daily basis. Nor should I be obligated to.

    I am not deserting the community spaces, you can be in more than one community jesus. Literally said so many times it is for a BREAK from all of that. Not a total escape. My fc discord is full of wonderful and varied people and I am glad of it.

    One toxic experience... ONE. Are you serious? For a short list of my exp with men online these past years, I had a pedophile send me nudes at 14, I have had about 5 separate men try and convince me to move to the middle east and have their children, others condemn me for not living a religious life, I have had dozens of stalkers, I have had western men vilify me in my community for not accepting their advances, calling me whore and a tease when I had made VERY clear my lack of interest. I still get 3 different dude's sending me dm's at random once a year without fail. Excuse me wanting a break from people such as this. And hell even then I am not a part of that discord nor any women's only discord. I just can understand people wanting to have such a place.

    I do not think men in general or gamers are awful, but there sure as hell is a LARGE portion of these communities that have serious social failings.
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    Last edited by Aelin_Ashryver; 12-20-2021 at 10:19 AM.

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    Thanks for choosing McDonalds, I hope you enjoy your order.
    Next.
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    Who could have predicted that this thread would have devolved into a flame war?

    Smarter men than I, surely.
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    can we just get this thread locked before more drama happens thanks.
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    no thanks, I like talking to men too
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    no thanks, I like talking to men too
    As a men, thank you.
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    ITT: Men mansplaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m1saka View Post
    ITT: Men mansplaining.

    But when a woman mansplains, does that make it womansplaining? *Thinking Emoji*
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    I really don't get it why this tread is so negative towards the OP or the idea for this matter. Like, if you disagree - move on. Nobody's forcing you to join. At this point it's giving "i personally am attacked this exists" and it shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theox View Post
    I really don't get it why this tread is so negative towards the OP or the idea for this matter. Like, if you disagree - move on. Nobody's forcing you to join. At this point it's giving "i personally am attacked this exists" and it shows.
    Because I am not okay with Sexism. Don't worry, I don't want to join the server. I simply disagree as a principle.

    Do you think it would be perfectly acceptable if I made a discord server that didn't allow black people to join? What If I opened a shop only for white people? For some reason, it's socially acceptable to discriminate against men and I am not okay with that.
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