FFXIV Girls only discord server

[Bellsong]

Whew, those first couple of posts... Is J. K. Rowling the admin of this discord?

[Theodric]

Each to their own, I guess.

I don't attribute what the server is doing as some grave, unforgivable sin. If a group of women want to come together and create a space that works for them? Great.

It's little different to a group of players who are French, German or Russian creating a server specifically for French, German or Russian players.

Different groups of people have different needs and expecting every group to bend over and prioritise members outside of that group is arguably why there are so many problems in the world right now.

[Caladir]

Each to their own, I guess.

I don't attribute what the server is doing as some grave, unforgivable sin. If a group of women want to come together and create a space that works for them? Great.

It's little different to a group of players who are French, German or Russian creating a server specifically for French, German or Russian players.

Different groups of people have different needs and expecting every group to bend over and prioritise members outside of that group is arguably why there are so many problems in the world right now.

What the server is supposed to stand for is a great thing. You should have a look through the two links listed in comment #3 though.

[Lauront]

What the server is supposed to stand for is a great thing. You should have a look through the two links listed in comment #3 though.

[MelanieY]

We are aware of these accusations and want to make it clear that we welcome LGBTQ+ people both to our server and into our staff.
All feminine of center has always been welcomed in our Discord server.
Many feminine of center found a home in our discord server and our community continue to grow and provide a safe space.

[Caladir]

You have a funny definition of "safe space"

Good luck.

[Merrigan]

Each to their own, I guess.

I don't attribute what the server is doing as some grave, unforgivable sin. If a group of women want to come together and create a space that works for them? Great.

It's little different to a group of players who are French, German or Russian creating a server specifically for French, German or Russian players.

Different groups of people have different needs and expecting every group to bend over and prioritise members outside of that group is arguably why there are so many problems in the world right now.

Having been in one of these "women only" groups once: the problem is not wanting to meet in small groups.

The problem is that your every action becomes monitored. Judged. The general atmosphere is more like a cult than anything else. You have to constantly control the way you express yourself, and that inevitably ends up affecting the way you perceive the world.

An indoctrination, no more and no less, which is exercised as soon as a group closes itself to diversity. And in the end, the discrimination becomes even more present.

To give an example: asking for a voice is something that has always made me react on MMORPGs. I don't find it a particularly sexist environment, actually. But one of the things that is still recurrent for a lot of players is asking for a voice to check if you have boobs. I don't think that's fair - think of me as a 200 pound bearded guy if you want, but don't kick me out of the group because I wouldn't talk to you.

So why on earth should these habits, which are perceived by many women as undesirable leftovers IG, be in so-called "inclusive" groups?

[Breakbeat]

The server provides an all girl safe space, free from any judgment and harassment.

Because your gender determines whether or not you harass people, and no females on this Earth harass others. Cool beans.

Also, we're supposed to be working towards being one people. Not further segregating ourselves based on gender. Ironically, a quality which says zero, nil, nothing about our real-world behavior.

Also also, "true equality," fellow human. Female isn't 'better than' male. How delusional does one have to be to think that "verifying someone as female" guarantees there won't be behavioral issues going forward? Wow, what a wacky line of logic and reasoning.

Sigh, I give up on this one. What the hell is wrong with humans?. Voice verification? Really? FFS.

SEGREGATE EVERYONE! Males over here, females over there, trans females get a different group, light-skinned here, dark-skinned there, liberals here, conservatives there, "female-centric" individuals over there, asexual people in group #17, short people here, fat people there, if you have a beard you're in group #28, deep voices over there, introverts in group #15, people who use a lot of foul language proceed way over there in the corner, please, group #49. People with a lot of patience in group #39, people with short tempers in group #44. Girls who want boys who like boys to be girls who do boys like they're girls who do girls like they're boys (all credit to Blur), group #12, thank you.

Yes, this is definitely the right way forward.

/retch

[Xrystofer]

We have an FFXIV women only discord server for the girls of Eorzea!
The server provides an all girl safe space, free from any judgment and harassment.
Our goal is to create a community of women gamers that share static groups, FCs, Leveling, treasure hunts, and everything in between, but mostly, friendships!

Isn't that the definition of Sexism?

[TaleraRistain]

I've been in multiple women gamer groups over my 30 years of gaming as a woman and nearly all of them (especially in this day and age) are just poorly-disguised anti-men gaming groups. And from the phrasing of the conversations by the mods in those Twitter conversations, this looks pretty much the same.