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    This is why I abhorrently dislike "boy/girl-only" groups. Are we in 2nd grade, now? ...No? Then stop it. Genders come in MORE than just two types, and some even blend together. Plus, with the things I have heard in this thread and on Twitter, this group appears to be managed very distastefully. Do better; it doesn't matter what gender a person is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyousha View Post
    Genders come in MORE than just two types, and some even blend together.
    That's subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    That's subjective.
    no
    it is not
    lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by AziraSyuren View Post
    no
    it is not
    lmao
    It was up until the recent years.
    Just because Tumblr science got picked up by panderers.
    Doesn't make it true.

    It's still very heavily subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Discrimination & Systemic Discrimination are not the same thing.

    You're talking about systemic discrimination, I'm talking about discrimination.

    Don't conflate the two.

    Rules discriminate against those who do not follow them.
    So basically you don't understand the definition of discrimination then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FedoraTheExplorer View Post
    So basically you don't understand the definition of discrimination then.
    Co-opting and rebranding a word does not change the definition of it.
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Co-opting and rebranding a word does not change the definition of it.
    There's a difference between common and academic parlance; most of the conversations of systemic discrimination, racism, etc fall into the latter. It's frankly pointless to talk about these issues with people who won't engage with them on that level, and you probably shouldn't bother for your own sake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    It was up until the recent years.
    Just because Tumblr science got picked up by panderers.
    Doesn't make it true.

    It's still very heavily subjective.
    ok Dr. Dunning-Kruger, whatever you say
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    Quote Originally Posted by AziraSyuren View Post
    no
    it is not
    lmao
    Yes it is lmao
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    As an aside, a not insignificant amount of people simply want to be left alone to do their own thing. I don't think everybody necessarily needs to be invited to join absolutely everything in existence - because such an approach prevents quite a lot of people from getting support that is custom tailored to what they desire.

    If a group of women on the internet want to hide away in their own little Discord server then I think that's perfectly acceptable. I see advertisements for women only groups quite often - for coffee mornings and the like.

    I know women who have been horribly abused and as part of their recovery, they needed to retreat into their own little support bubbles until they built up the confidence to interact with the wider world once more.

    It's an approach that isn't going to work for everybody, though it works for some people and the last thing survivors of abuse need is to be burdened with problems that simply do not concern them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    As an aside, a not insignificant amount of people simply want to be left alone to do their own thing. I don't think everybody necessarily needs to be invited to join absolutely everything in existence - because such an approach prevents quite a lot of people from getting support that is custom tailored to what they desire.

    If a group of women on the internet want to hide away in their own little Discord server then I think that's perfectly acceptable. I see advertisements for women only groups quite often - for coffee mornings and the like.

    I know women who have been horribly abused and as part of their recovery, they needed to retreat into their own little support bubbles until they built up the confidence to interact with the wider world once more.

    It's an approach that isn't going to work for everybody, though it works for some people and the last thing survivors of abuse need is to be burdened with problems that simply do not concern them.
    Ugh I wish I had 100 likes for this...joke's on me for clicking this thread, I came here to see if the maintenance was done yet and good lawd

    As a girl who didn't get into gaming until the pandemic turned everyone into a shut in, I've gotten the full ride in the last year, from d*** pics to literal stalkers. I literally thought alot of it was just a meme or overblown until it was actually happening to me.

    Its pretty much impossible to explain what its like, why bubbles are okay, and why having clear and simple boundaries isn't a sideways invitation for people to test and push at them. It doesn't always have to be something dramatic like abuse recovery either that leads to these groups. Sometimes its just about being comfy around people who get it.

    So I think alot of us just choose silence in online spaces because it makes life so much easier. This thread pretty much shows why lol.. I'm lucky since I'm in some rl girl only groups like the coffee meet ups you mentioned above, and a fun cuddle puddle/movie group. Its obviously alot easier to regulate in person or over Zoom.

    I guess I don't really have a point, I just saw your post while reading the last 18 pages with my jaw dropped open, and wanted to say ty for being sane.

    But that's as far as I can go on this thread, I have to get back to my secret girl group to do more secret girl stuffs
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