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  1. #131
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    Airget's Avatar
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Genome View Post
    Wait a tick, you have to supply 2500+ stacks of spruce branches (or whatever) to be top 20? Is that even possible?

    Ya I forgot to mention for those who prolly haven't had a chance to supply a Hamlet, the way it works is when you turn in 10 pieces of a gathered material you obtain 1k points, +1 10=10k points, 1 militia crafted item is 1k points and a +1 of a crafted is 10k points. But ya XD it's not that unbelievable of a number but still obtaining 25 stacks of a specific item isn't easy lol. Basically to reach 250k which I made up as the average minimum that may be needed to hit Top 20 you would need either 25 stacks of NQ materials, 2 and a half stacks of HQ materials, 250 NQ synths or 25 HQ synths.

    For a better perspective on time needed to obtain 250k, let's say it takes about half an hour to cut 6 trees, so you can cut 12 trees an hour, half the time you can obtain spruce branches, so let's say you obtain an average of 5 a cut with a potential of 10 +1.
    So every hour you obtain about
    240 branches or 2 stacks and 42 left over. Now to obtain 25 stacks you'd have to spend about 10hrs gathering but of course that can be reduced by obtaining +1 of said material. But still to obtain 25 stacks and spend 10hrs gathering just to make use of it in a 25hr period just so you can hit the top 20 and make use of it for 25hrs is quite a heavy cost XD.

    On the crafting side with recent changes you can synth maybe 50 items using hast hands every half hour, maybe more so for crafting they could reach the 250k point in about 2hrs and 30 minutes of non-stop hasty hand synthing. However a majority of crafters will most likely take the HQ route in an attempt to reduce the amount they need since the point value is worth 10x more.

    In that essence a synth could take 1-3 mins depending on how things go and including downtime in between. So with a minute per synth that 60 synths an hour which is all ended up being HQ could take 4hrs and change. At the max 3 mins a synth you're only getting 20 synth done an hour in that sense it would take you 12hrs if it all turned out to be HQ. Of course you can speed up the point process by purchasing HQ materials but when point values are reduced to 0 people aren't as willing to spend the cash if something were to come up and they couldn't take advantage of having Top 20 during that Hamlet phase.
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    But ya the way Hamlet is designed atm pretty much gives it a death sentence, it'll work while people want to get stuff, but once the loot dries up people will ignore the event. Unlike Ifrit/Garuda/Moogle which can be done at any time, Hamlet can only be done if proper preparations are made, well done in the sense that if you want the best chances at obtaining loot you should supply said hamlet XD.

    I just hope they can make the changes quickly since the way Hamlet stands now it's gonna die out quickly XD.
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    Last edited by Airget; 05-10-2012 at 08:11 AM.

  2. #132
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    Genome's Avatar
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    Lord Genome
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Ya I forgot to mention for those who prolly haven't had a chance to supply a Hamlet, the way it works is when you turn in 10 pieces of a gathered material you obtain 1k points, +1 10=10k points, 1 militia crafted item is 1k points and a +1 of a crafted is 10k points. But ya XD it's not that unbelievable of a number but still obtaining 25 stacks of a specific item isn't easy lol. Basically to reach 250k which I made up as the average minimum that may be needed to hit Top 20 you would need either 25 stacks of NQ materials, 2 and a half stacks of HQ materials, 250 NQ synths or 25 HQ synths.
    Ohh ok. 25 stacks is a lot for sure but a LS could combine the efforts of a few people to get one person top 20 but still, thats a lot of work. I think it took me 1.5 hr to get 1 stack which have been sitting in my inventory. From everything I hear hamlets aren't worth doing so to me, this patch is a big yawn. Had so much hope for hamlet defense but doesn't even seem like its worth doing except to get your anima back.
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  3. #133
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    Mister-Wonderful's Avatar
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    Mister Wonderful
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoll View Post
    Lame..where is the weapons?...

    No job adjustments either...

    Okay then. :/
    Job adjustments always have been slated for 1.22b

    AF weaps were not guaranteed for 1.22a.




    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    not in patch notes so unless ninjad in.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    We will be adjusting the rating settings based on the fact that we will have one for each city-state. However, once these are released we would like to look into easing the ratings after we hear everyone’s feedback and take a look at the situation.
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  4. #134
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    syntaxlies's Avatar
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    Syntax Lies
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    Hyperion
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful View Post
    Job adjustments always have been slated for 1.22b

    AF weaps were not guaranteed for 1.22a.
    what I gather from that post is that they want to "ease" it based on feedback slowly, very slowly.
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  5. #135
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    Serdapi's Avatar
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    Ai Yukira
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    Jenova
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful View Post
    Job adjustments always have been slated for 1.22b

    AF weaps were not guaranteed for 1.22a.
    Good thing you cleared that up. So people can realize that it is just as hard to get level 2 until they change it after they get feedback!



    i.e. No changes to Hamlet besides the bug fixes and adding more places to do Hamlet. No increase in drop rate or rate of ranking up.
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  6. #136
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    Rane Farstrider
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SniperRifle View Post
    Did somebody say...



    ?
    No way we'd ever beat him. The key to getting past that battle would be to spam /grovel immediately upon entering and hope for the best.
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  7. #137
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    Cesil Rapture
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful View Post
    Job adjustments always have been slated for 1.22b

    AF weaps were not guaranteed for 1.22a.


    /10char
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  8. #138
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    Kiara's Avatar
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Hi All,

    While I was looking forward to AF Weapons as well, I think it just gives more time for people to "appreciate" (or just collect) the new set of Garuda Weapons which are still very new to the game.

    I would've liked to see some key adjustments to Hamlet Defense, but realize with Golden Week there probably isn't enough turnaround time yet.

    This bug fix though is quite sad to hear (and probably the reason why my friend (and other Top 20 Provisioners received nothing for beating Hamlet). OUCH.

    An issue with hamlet defense wherein players were not being recognized as top-twenty provisioners.
    It still doesn't solve the key issues with Hamlet Defense, but it's a start for those that are Top 20 at least (so sad they had to waste their time the previous 3 rounds).
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  9. #139
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Put this in the meme thread, but thought I would express myself in this one also.

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  10. #140
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    Suede Derviant
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Poo poo patch! I'm glad they put the hamlet defense (only for the anima supply turn-ins, could care less about the boring battle) in LL and Than though. I was sick of running through the cesspool Black Shroud.
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    Last edited by Pulseczar; 05-10-2012 at 08:26 AM.

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