Thread: [6.0 spoiler] Limit breaks

at 1st i tought they were retconning LBs as Dynamys but right after we survive again with the aether barrier the scions cast on us.
i also do not remind any official explanation on how LBs works, as mentioned on some posts above someone said it was aether but i dont know if its a canon explanation or expeculation. Since all ppl in the Source are sundered or fragmented i dont see much problem on squadrons or any other ppl using Dynamis even not knowing about it.

That said i believe that on the Zenos encounter you have a buff telling you're empowered by your comrades and the memories of your advantures isnt it?So this means that not just you but the Scions are channeling Dynamis on you? might need to check.

hmm, I wonder if its a mix of aether AND dynamis. Unconciously using dynamis to achieve aether based feats. Casting meteor for example is a blm limit break, buthere we have exdeath tossing out meteors repeatedly

If they want us to believe that LBs are Dynamis then they really should get thier gameplay mechanic straight too. Dont have the Ancients use it in the dungeon. Also Elidibus too used it and eventhough he used Ardberts body, his soul was still unsundered.

Originally Posted by Alleo

If they want us to believe that LBs are Dynamis then they really should get thier gameplay mechanic straight too. Dont have the Ancients use it in the dungeon. Also Elidibus too used it and eventhough he used Ardberts body, his soul was still unsundered.

To be fair, Venat basically uses a Limit Break during her sparring match with you (which is before she and the restof the ancients get nerfed into the floor for Ktisis). So I choose to interpret that the Ancients in Ktisis are just doing that. a "Mock Limit Break" performed via Aether instead of Dynamis.

It's a bit handwavey / fanwank, I admit, but it's the best I got.

Originally Posted by Alleo

If they want us to believe that LBs are Dynamis then they really should get thier gameplay mechanic straight too. Dont have the Ancients use it in the dungeon. Also Elidibus too used it and eventhough he used Ardberts body, his soul was still unsundered.

Ancients can use Dynamis, but to a much lesser degree than the Sundered people. There's also the possibility that the dampener on their aether in the dungeon allowed them to tap into dynamis a bit more.

My read is that some LBs are dynamis, some are aether, and some are the limit breaker going above and beyond in doing whatever they're doing, like the MCH LB3, which is apparently just a really powerful and short-lived local satellite.

It honestly could just be different roads to the same result. Ancients, who're so replete with aether, can use limit breaks by expending a portion of their vast reserves; the Sundered utilize Dynamis to help elevate themselves to something similar in more dire circumstances. One group is just that powerful and it's not a "limit break" for them, while the other is breaking down their weaknesses and reaching it via other methods.

I'd say limit breaks are mostly aether, with maybe a smidge of dynamis to help you push past your limits. Like it's 10/10 aether and dynamis is a little +1 that lets you briefly turn things up to 11.

The final fight is probably an exception and features much more dynamis than usual because of the nature of where you are and what you're doing.

The Ancients limit breaking in the dungeon is fine because they're packing a bit more aether than us anyway and can go to 11 as standard.

Originally Posted by Alleo

But how does that explain Elidibus being able to use LB4 on us? He is an unsundered Ancient after all.



I guess that can make sense too but then it would have probably been better to not just have Meteion say Dynamis after we use it. Because that made it seem like its just Dynamis behind it and because the lore books are written with an ingame view in mind we cant even use that as a source...so its really hard to argue now.

Well, the entire point of us being Sundered was for Hydaelyn to have us experience the trials and tribulations of being "imperfect." To deal with loss and sorrow, to know joy and achievement. To know the entire spectrum of emotion, of life and death,so that we'd be better equipped to face Meteion on her own playing field--with Dynamis. It has always been there. We're just now adding new pieces to the puzzle; that doesn't invalidate what we have in the EE books. It just means we have to treat them as they are: guides, not rule of law.