Waist items gone, where's the gil I spent on them?

[Breakbeat]

*edit* Sorry folks, my bad. I've already stated further in the thread that this lack of knowledge was my mistake, and why I reacted so, well, abysmally for the first few of my posts in this thread. My apologies, and I hope those reading this will read further (around page 4ish and up). Thanks for understanding (if you read further as suggested).

Yeah, so delete the topic? Are you not the least embarrassed about the stain left for posterity?

Rolling past some entitled nonsense in General just doesn't add to the positivity. I dunno 'bout you, but I'd not only be embarrassed, but I'd also not want to incite others to your initial level of frustration - you know, for the betterment of humanity and stuff?

I find it depressing that folks will go nuts in the first part of their threads, ("MAH REFUNDZ!"), then chill out in the latter parts and not make any effort to correct their earlier nonsense. (Yeah I know you did an edit, but the title stands, and that's the worst part.)

You've put yourself across as the infamous "customer demanding a refund." People should be required to work face-to-face customer service for a year out of their lives, so they understand the fallacy of "the customer is always right" (they aren't). If "the customer is always right," then I can walk into Target today, fill my basket with $400 worth of stuff, and state to the cashier that my total is $18.50, because "the customer is always right." Non-friggin'-sense. Virtual currency isn't an unalienable right. You may lose some with no recourse -- deal with it.

This behavior happens everywhere and it's kinda sad. I read a Customer Support thread on the WoW forums this morning where a player was vehemently demanding to speak with a "Blue" (Blizzard employee) because of such-and-such and blah blah blah, arguing with other forum posters.... then when the Blue posted and confirmed that the OP there was indeed in the wrong, their posting style changed to "Thank you so much!" and a whole bunch of hearts and stuff. Yet scroll up one flick of the mouse wheel and there are the tantrum stains, for all to see.

Many don't care how their online behavior comes across, because "it's just the Internet", as if that's not a real form of interaction and communication. Where the hell did we go wrong on this?

[Packetdancer]

Not a bad idea to integrate outside of game info back into the game.

If I remember correctly, didn't the Play Guide thing that they throw in your face by default used to also have the news links in it? (Maybe even still does?) It's just most people I know go "AAAAA STOP" and turn off the "Hey, would you like to open the Play Guide in a web browser?" thing it often prompted with.

So, without being snide, I strongly suspect most people would see nothing of note in the news on a regular basis and then just start tuning it out. As noted earlier in the thread, many people don't even bother to read the News links in the launcher either, because after a certain point you just visually skip over them as like... visual noise in the landscape.

So I'm unfortunately not sure there's a good way they have to surface information beyond what they already do that wouldn't fall prey to the same thing.

[Fawkes]

Yeah, so delete the topic? Are you not the least embarrassed about the stain left for posterity?

You can't delete your own topics on these forums.

[Darkobra]

Told by who? announcement in game? BIG notice onthe launcher? Unlike you, I don't spend my days onthe forums. I spend my gaming time, *gasps* gaming*. Would have been nice to have an ingame mail about it.

You know where I was told about it? Gaming. In the game. By my FC. As I was gaming. A YEAR AGO!

[Doc_Seraph]

Kupo, how do you really think we got to the moon? They tied all our belts together and launched it at the moon...duh kupo jk <3 kupo

[Merkhen]

This was so well done that the belt obliteration is on the Lore.

[Xrystofer]

never saw it in the launcher, and I don't do that other stuff you mentioned. I don't watch fanfest, or go to fanfests, I don't do producer live letters, I didn't have a forum account till today, and haven't even read the forums or anything on them until today. So no, I was NOT aware of it. I've never seen it in loadstone (prolly missed it as I was likely looking for other things and not looking for 'news'). And frankly, I launch the launcher, and start the game, because that's all I AM interested in doing. Not spending time reading blah bl;ah banned x rmt blah blah etc. Because that is literally the ONLY garbage I see in that section. So, sorry I wasn't up to date because I play a game instead of read about it.

The only thing that they didn't do was to send you a private message that belts are going away. It's no one's fault but your own if you do not even read the news on the official site. I suggest that if you want to keep up with the news that you should read what they post on lodestone from now on.

[SummonerXI]

Yes, I was upset. Still am frankly. Desynthing a 100k belt, isn't really compensation, and i've had those belts for a fairly long time. As for my 'obnoxious tone', not everyone plays a game to 'read all about it' many, if not most people, play a game, to you know, play the game, the only thing they are interested in, is if they can log in and get some game time. That's what I do. I launch the launcher, put my username and password in, hit login, and play, in that order. I don't read every little blurb in the launcher because all I ever see is blah blah rmt accounts banned, or congestion apologies. I never saw any notice (because I generally don't look there, as my intent is to get into the game). Perhaps it was in the launcher news. I never saw it because I never looked. I log in to play, not read a bunch of article spam. Was I annoyed? YES, and my 'tone' (btw thanks for tone policing) def reflected my annoyance. But, now I know. And now I know the gil I spent was utterly wasted for no real reason as far as I can see.

Not only are belts worthless as glamour items since they're not visible, the stats from the belts have been reworked into the rest of the gear to account for their loss. Your 100k Exarchic belt was never meant to last you into Endwalker, and it was already obsolete the moment it dropped since the Cryptlurker Belts and Edenmorn Belts were already way better than the Exarchic stuff. You got your gil's worth out of the belts, so this isn't the hill to die on.