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  1. #11
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    jetfire117's Avatar
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    Rujhezia Zima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    Really only time you can be consequenced for bad DPS is refusing to AoE when asked then you get booted for griefing the dungeon
    I don't know about that one, you might just get hit with a "you don't pay my sub" or lol.
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    Aelfred Sigmundsson
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetfire117 View Post
    I don't know about that one, you might just get hit with a "you don't pay my sub" or lol.
    Thats been dropped alot before they usually get hit with the party kick lol. People learn fast in FF14 to be a team player, consequences
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nogoodnamesleft View Post
    how is this an inclusive gameplay we ff14 community can allow?
    I can tell you from nearly 20 years of playing online games (mostly MMOs) that you're never going to completely escape these people. So it's not about whether or not any of us or the folks behind XIV allow them to be this way, it's that you can't stop them from initially being this way. Most of us don't tolerate people like that and, unlike most games, you can actually report this type of behavior here.

    These types of people are often incredibly stupid when it comes to behavior and especially covering their tracks. Typically in a hilarious yet depressingly pathetic way. And yeah, I have no qualms about insulting a potential child here, given the childish antics, but it's more than likely someone old enough to know better. They'll usually provide you all the evidence you need to report them and, given the violation on 3rd party tools, will usually flaunt their knowledge about something they're not supposed to actually know. A GM can use this as further reason to pursue action, though it's likely not needed. It's more akin to additional ammunition or motivation to take action, given the subjectivity of issuing punishment. They don't even need to actually have been using 3rd party tools in this situation, just the implied claim is enough to shoot themselves in the foot.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 12-17-2021 at 06:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    These types of people are often incredibly stupid when it comes to behavior and especially covering their tracks. Typically in a hilarious yet depressingly pathetic way.
    Can confirm. The player in savage gear shouting 'git gud' and throwing a tantrum when healer has to potty break has failed mechanics and died in dungeons.

    Don't let their behavior fool you. If they actually had achievements you'd have seen mention of them. People celebrate mediocrity and chastize the hobbyist to feel a snowflake. Its all the thing now.
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    Most high achievers in real life and in games don't spend time crapping on others. They're too busy trying to better themselves.
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    ...and everyone clapped.
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    Kupo, unless savage and even then its not okay, I wouldn't let it bother you. Simply not worth stressing over kupo. <3
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    Kupo!

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    Really only time you can be consequenced for bad DPS is refusing to AoE when asked then you get booted for griefing the dungeon.

    Or lashing out at a veteran of your class for recommending but not compelling better play.
    Had some heals dob this in msq dungeons svd wipe us called us obscenities
    this was EX trial 1, i went in as a reaper for the first time ,also it was 1st pull clear so i didnt know why this man went full on rage mode on melees, the guy was clearly parsing because he uploads his log every single pull if its good, but again this is the first trial in EW and ppl are trying to get more practice with the new jobs, therefore bullying or crapping on others in a trial seems to be outrageous .
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    Last edited by Nogoodnamesleft; 12-17-2021 at 09:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nogoodnamesleft View Post
    This is my experience last night , i must admit that i was truly hurt by what happened and as someone who joined game just 1 year ago, i have never ever met such rude and toxic person who would abuse third party tool to flame and harrass players like that, I am not a perfect player but i will try and be a better player however using numbers outside the game from a 3rd party tool just to flame and discourage other players is abosolutely unacceptble and it totally ruins the healthy gaming environment .Not to mention, reaper is a brandnew job which i take great pleasure leveling and experiencing. I do not understand the concept of which this person had against other players just becasue he uses ACT to parse or show his superiority .Including in the chatlog, he dared to ask me and other melee to play another game, how is this an inclusive gameplay we ff14 community can allow? Frankly i was totally bummed and discouraged by him and had to log off due to that reason alone. As hurtful as it may sound, i just didnt want to play the ex trial with reaper anymore becasue of that, But i will continue my journey and keep learning reaper, i will not be discouraged by such person not worth my time and energy.
    hrmmm. knowing some one else damage and belittling them on it... sounds like a a parse user and should be reported. Yoshi already stated that Harassment and use of 3rd party is not to be tolerated.
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  11. #20
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    Fultorn Kilnson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    Can confirm. The player in savage gear shouting 'git gud' and throwing a tantrum when healer has to potty break has failed mechanics and died in dungeons.

    Don't let their behavior fool you. If they actually had achievements you'd have seen mention of them. People celebrate mediocrity and chastize the hobbyist to feel a snowflake. Its all the thing now.
    I am seeing this a lot coming from the recent WoW implants that boost or buy accounts to do only raid content. But that is just from my POV as I see the bad behavior increasing lately. I had one person tell me to go KYS in a 4 man because they "raided in WoW and to never be questioned" which made me laugh and my only response was "This isn't Azeroth, this is Eorzea we play by a different set of rules." and the guy lost his shyte over that one statement. Then suddenly poof he disappeared, I think a GM grabbed him, as his wording was very colorful prior to him losing it, to say the least.
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    So fresh it'll smack yo momma!!!

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