Can't to fates while leveling - due to other players

[Raven2014]

I'm not super far into endwalker yet (lvl 82). I've been trying to get the 6 gold ratings from fates for faster mount speed. However, its nearly impossible to do this. Every fate that spawns has a legion of players fly in within 30 seconds and finish it in another 45 seconds.

Why would you do fate when you don't have fly yet? The game is clearly designed for Fate to be used after you finish the story and start lvling your alt class.

- Some zones (like Labythros) is clearly not designed to quickly moved around on foot, also even if the zones are continuous, they are all massive.
- Fate give pitiful amount of EXP without the amoury bonus, which you won't have on your first class.
- The MSQ give enough EXP to get your job to 80 without ever doing a single FATE.

All of this combine means if you're trying to do FATE on your first class ... you are playing it ... the way it's not meant to be. I avoided saying you're playing it's wrong since it your game, play however you like. But do note the fact you would be playing against the design, so inconvenience should not come as a surprise.

[KitKatnip]

Why would you do fate when you don't have fly yet? The game is clearly designed for Fate to be used after you finish the story and start lvling your alt class.

- Some zones (like Labythros) is clearly not designed to quickly moved around on foot, also even if the zones are continuous, they are all massive.
- Fate give pitiful amount of EXP without the amoury bonus, which you won't have on your first class.
- The MSQ give enough EXP to get your job to 80 without ever doing a single FATE.

All of this combine means if you're trying to do FATE on your first class ... you are playing it ... the way it's not meant to be. I avoided saying you're playing it's wrong since it your game, play however you like. But do note the fact you would be playing against the design, so inconvenience should not come as a surprise.

The MSQ by itself is not enough to level you to 90 unless maybe you have a lot of rested XP. There were a few levels where I had to finish leveling up with side quests so I could continue the MSQ. Yoshi-P mentioned that in one of his messages on the Lodestone.

[Raven2014]

The MSQ by itself is not enough to level you to 90 unless maybe you have a lot of rested XP. There were a few levels where I had to finish leveling up with side quests so I could continue the MSQ. Yoshi-P mentioned that in one of his messages on the Lodestone.

I don't think rest EXP matter that much since there is very little combat content. And since you only run each dungeon once it's hardly matter.

When I did my main the first time, I hit like level 90 druing lvl88 story contents. Granted I did do a couple PVP daily, but I didn't touch the class quest line at all (which I think worth about half a level by itself).

With that knowledge in hand I'm playing through my alt with no addition EXP injection from DF. I use the daily roulettes to level a 2nd class in parallel instead and I'm still ahead of the content. Right I'm almost lvl88, and about to hit the lvl87 dungeon. And again this is purely from MSQ exp, the only side quests I'm doing is for fly map and the class quests.

[TristanX]

I did MSQ all the way to 90 and only do aether currents when its close. You will need a few DR because I don't have enough XP for Lv87 and Lv88 to continue MSQ. Did not bother doing Fates unless it is close as well.

[Floortank]

I'm not super far into endwalker yet (lvl 82). I've been trying to get the 6 gold ratings from fates for faster mount speed. However, its nearly impossible to do this. Every fate that spawns has a legion of players fly in within 30 seconds and finish it in another 45 seconds. Basically, unless a fate spawns very close to me and I immediately notice, I won't be able to participate.

Are other people having these problems?

Grinding FATEs for rewards has been a bad idea since SHB, since as we can see, it's leading to the opposite of what the devs intended. They wanted to make it so that someone like you might have a chance to clear FATEs that would otherwise be ignored. So they put toys on them and now everyone rushes to clear them and you get left out because you physically cannot make it there in time. Just bad design.

[Usernamewastaken]

Just buy the pay to win fenrir bike lol. No, but you can shout in the zone asking for a fate party. People will probably invite you. Honestly though, just do the MSQ because like 2 zones you cant even fly in until later on in the MSQ.

[Xrystofer]

I'm not super far into endwalker yet (lvl 82). I've been trying to get the 6 gold ratings from fates for faster mount speed. However, its nearly impossible to do this. Every fate that spawns has a legion of players fly in within 30 seconds and finish it in another 45 seconds. Basically, unless a fate spawns very close to me and I immediately notice, I won't be able to participate.

Are other people having these problems?

You could ask to join a party and have someone fly you around with a 2-seat mount.

[PharisHanasaki]

Why would you do fate when you don't have fly yet? The game is clearly designed for Fate to be used after you finish the story and start lvling your alt class.

- Some zones (like Labythros) is clearly not designed to quickly moved around on foot, also even if the zones are continuous, they are all massive.
- Fate give pitiful amount of EXP without the amoury bonus, which you won't have on your first class.
- The MSQ give enough EXP to get your job to 80 without ever doing a single FATE.

All of this combine means if you're trying to do FATE on your first class ... you are playing it ... the way it's not meant to be. I avoided saying you're playing it's wrong since it your game, play however you like. But do note the fact you would be playing against the design, so inconvenience should not come as a surprise.

This is absolutely false.
You can buy a riding map after getting to rank 2 on fates. The only time you need this map to increase your ground mount speed is when you can't fly. So it is clearly intended for first MSQ runners.

[Raven2014]

This is absolutely false.

What is false about it, and also what constitutes the quantify "absolutely"? Are you just putting it there for effect?

The first area of Labythos is cut into 2 clean half by a cliff that you can't jump or climb over, with the only access point is a tunnel on one end of the map. That means if you do a fate in one area and another pop in the other half, you have no choice but to travel either the full width of the map, or even twice the width of the map depending on where the next FATE spawn. Samething with the Thavinar, samething with the 4th map (vague to avoid spoiler), same thing with the 5th map. Especially the 4th map, with the way the map designed you ain't getting to half of the fate in time unless you stick to one single area.

If you are telling me the dev intend for people to cover the whole map doing fate without fly, then they are either bad designer or pure sadists.

[Liam_Harper]

Unlocking faster mount speed is not worth it, since it doesn't apply to flying mounts.

I'd recommend just enjoying the MSQ, unlocking flight and doing Fates after 90 if you want to level alts.