Are we no longer warriors... (Spoilers!)

[Derio]

We still have the blessing of light we just do not have Hydalen intervention anymore. We also still have the echo and are half Ascian so we arent completely stripped.

[Canadane]

imo we never stopped becoming an adventurer.
What was the past 11 years if not the greatest adventure to have happen?

[Averax]

imo we never stopped becoming an adventurer.
What was the past 11 years if not the greatest adventure to have happen?

Some people would like it better if we just went back to running errands for random villages with no overarching plot.

[Mirhd]

Not sure why this is an issue for some. Lit the only thing Hydaelyn (Venat) gave you was her Traveler's Ward (protection against aetheric corruption, which is what primal tempering is) and that one time she shielded you from the Ultima spell. Remember when Midgardsormr blocked Hydaelyn from you so you couldn't even speak to her? And you still pulled off great feats? Not to mention that time and time again throughout each expansion it's been said over and over how weak Hydaelyn must be getting, and we later learn why.

Everything else you've ever done was all you, including the Echo, which is just a natural ability the Ancients have.

EDIT: Azem (your) crystal can still summon others. As stated in game, that summoning spell was of your design, and all Hydaelyn placed on it was a special (temporary) one to be used right at the end to call Hyth and Emet to you. The original summoning magic still remains.

[Lersayil]

Not sure why this is an issue for some. Lit the only thing Hydaelyn (Venat) gave you was her Traveler's Ward (protection against aetheric corruption, which is what primal tempering is) and that one time she shielded you from the Ultima spell. Remember when Midgardsormr blocked Hydaelyn from you so you couldn't even speak to her? And you still pulled off great feats? Not to mention that time and time again throughout each expansion it's been said over and over how weak Hydaelyn must be getting, and we later learn why.

Everything else you've ever done was all you, including the Echo, which is just a natural ability the Ancients have.

EDIT: Azem (your) crystal can still summon others. As stated in game, that summoning spell was of your design, and all Hydaelyn placed on it was a special (temporary) one to be used right at the end to call Hyth and Emet to you. The original summoning magic still remains.

I might misremember, but didn't Azems crystal evaporate together with Hydaelyns light after reassembling the party at the end? Also, can you please provide some citation for that summoning magic being our own? I was under the impression it was something unsundered Azem had, and we just used it via his / her crystal.

But other that that, yeah. Unless Venats protection spell perished with her, we're still basically at the same strength minus Azem crystal powers.

EDIT: double checked, I did misremember, we still have the crystal.

[Mirhd]

I might misremember, but didn't Azems crystal evaporate together with Hydaelyns light after reassembling the party at the end? Also, can you please provide some citation for that summoning magic being our own? I was under the impression it was something unsundered Azem had, and we just used it via his / her crystal.

But other that that, yeah. Unless Venats protection spell perished with her, we're still basically at the same strength minus Azem crystal powers.

No, we still clearly have the crystal at the end, it was just Hydaelyns' magic dissipating. Also, when I said "our own", I thought that was fairly obvious... being that we are Azem. Yes, we're sundered, but we're still Azem, hence saying "our own" is accurate. It was just a spell we created in our past as Azem.

[Averax]

Not sure why this is an issue for some. Lit the only thing Hydaelyn (Venat) gave you was her Traveler's Ward (protection against aetheric corruption, which is what primal tempering is)

She could have taught us that one before she went...

Yeah we have the scales to hand out....and Garlean radios apparently.... but like...primals are always going to exist for some reason or another, and it would have been neat to have a handy spell to ward people against tempering.

[Mirhd]

She could have taught us that one before she went...

Yeah we have the scales to hand out....and Garlean radios apparently.... but like...primals are always going to exist for some reason or another, and it would have been neat to have a handy spell to ward people against tempering.

True. Even if she had though, may it's something we couldn't use on our own? Unless it was stored in a crystal, ala the Azem summoning spell. Maybe it requires an unsundered Ancient's level of aether. Who knows.

[Larirawiel]

I was always a Whitemage of Light. So i do not care that other players are not Warriors of Light anymore.

Cheers

[KyahAlmasy]

Not sure why this is an issue for some. Lit the only thing Hydaelyn (Venat) gave you was her Traveler's Ward (protection against aetheric corruption, which is what primal tempering is) and that one time she shielded you from the Ultima spell. Remember when Midgardsormr blocked Hydaelyn from you so you couldn't even speak to her? And you still pulled off great feats? Not to mention that time and time again throughout each expansion it's been said over and over how weak Hydaelyn must be getting, and we later learn why.

Everything else you've ever done was all you, including the Echo, which is just a natural ability the Ancients have.

EDIT: Azem (your) crystal can still summon others. As stated in game, that summoning spell was of your design, and all Hydaelyn placed on it was a special (temporary) one to be used right at the end to call Hyth and Emet to you. The original summoning magic still remains.

This isn't exactly true, there have been many solo challenges where we, the player, are about to lose when she refreshes our bars completely to keep going, or just shields us from outside powers. This "power" was what originally earned us the "Warrior of Light" title, not just because we couldn't be tempered. Like for instance when Igeyorhm suspends us in the air with her magic to steal away the key to Azusa Lla, we are only able to resist because we gained back a portion of our blessing. Yes, we've become formidable warriors in our own right by this point, but we would have been wiped out long time ago if it weren't for Hydaelyn.