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    indeed burst is useful ^^

    same (or stronger) damage of thundaga but less cost of mp

    blm is a dd... another dd spell is gold for us :Q__




    then i want holy more powerful! i use all mp for casting it and 5 min of recast are too D:

    :trollface:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momita View Post
    indeed burst is useful ^^

    same (or stronger) damage of thundaga but less cost of mp

    blm is a dd... another dd spell is gold for us :Q__




    then i want holy more powerful! i use all mp for casting it and 5 min of recast are too D:

    :trollface:
    Holy isn't your 15 Minute Ability!

    You already have Benediction =P
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    I think a good many black mages have been more than a little underwhelmed by this ability. I've seen a black mage get his mp to 4 then convert before using an excruciate burst and the damage was still fairly laughable.
    I believe that the Blm 15 minute ability needs to be completely rethought. I'm not in favour of manafont , not every 15 minutes. Perhaps as a two hour ability at some future point but not as a 15 minute ability. I think the way to reform it is to boost damage and would suggest that it should do 25-50% more damage than a crit thundaga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlemagne View Post
    I think a good many black mages have been more than a little underwhelmed by this ability. I've seen a black mage get his mp to 4 then convert before using an excruciate burst and the damage was still fairly laughable.
    I believe that the Blm 15 minute ability needs to be completely rethought. I'm not in favour of manafont , not every 15 minutes. Perhaps as a two hour ability at some future point but not as a 15 minute ability. I think the way to reform it is to boost damage and would suggest that it should do 25-50% more damage than a crit thundaga.
    Well he must be casting in Full AF, cause my DMG @ low hp, w/o a crit is still very good. Maybe you guys need to invest in some INT Materia to up your damage instead of adjusting things,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    Well he must be casting in Full AF, cause my DMG @ low hp, w/o a crit is still very good. Maybe you guys need to invest in some INT Materia to up your damage instead of adjusting things,,
    Most of our LS BLM sit at around 360-370 INT without food, many of us over 380.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlemagne View Post
    Most of our LS BLM sit at around 360-370 INT without food, many of us over 380.
    I am sorry, I find that hard to believe, I rock 377 INT and I know Burst has some damn good damage outputs. If you can execute a Convert>Excruciate>Burst you will see some nice spike damage, even w/o the crit. I play BLM a ton, and I know Burst may have a long recast, but It doesn't need to be changed..

    If you wanna cast Burst every min, go solo some leves..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    I am sorry, I find that hard to believe, I rock 377 INT and I know Burst has some damn good damage outputs. If you can execute a Convert>Excruciate>Burst you will see some nice spike damage, even w/o the crit. I play BLM a ton, and I know Burst may have a long recast, but It doesn't need to be changed..

    If you wanna cast Burst every min, go solo some leves..
    Synyster. I believe you are the only person that believes Burst is a good ability in comparison to the other Fifteen Minute abilities. The rest of the forum want change.

    As someone aforementioned making a space for an ability would help, an ability which lowered enmity on casting for 20 seconds, or increased damage of spells for 20 seconds, offered free costing casts. These would be more beneficial than a "Damage Spike" which is hardly a damage spike at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    I am sorry, I find that hard to believe, I rock 377 INT and I know Burst has some damn good damage outputs. If you can execute a Convert>Excruciate>Burst you will see some nice spike damage, even w/o the crit. I play BLM a ton, and I know Burst may have a long recast, but It doesn't need to be changed..

    If you wanna cast Burst every min, go solo some leves..
    SynysterBlitz, stop acting like you are godsend with no equal in your blm skills. It is a very easy job to play and a very easy job to gear up. You can argue that Burst is strong all you want but the fact of the matter is that its a cheaper Thundaga that requires a lot more work to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    I am sorry, I find that hard to believe, I rock 377 INT and I know Burst has some damn good damage outputs. If you can execute a Convert>Excruciate>Burst you will see some nice spike damage,
    Yea because we wana be standing around in red HP don't we ... I'm sure you will come back with the "risk is worth the reward" or some such nonsense, but if the risk = death then no, if you die you leave your party in the shit because you made a craptastic decision.

    Even if I were to try this I can almost guarantee the WHM would have healed me before I got Burst off anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    Well he must be casting in Full AF, cause my DMG @ low hp, w/o a crit is still very good. Maybe you guys need to invest in some INT Materia to up your damage instead of adjusting things,,
    Even with 500+ Magic Attack as well as 460~ Magic Accuracy with Convert and Combo'd Burst. The damage is laughable. If your damage is so amazing, and you believe it benefits the fifteen minute timer imposed on it, by all means post it.
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