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    Griss Stilgar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    Are you using Burst at low HP??? I don't see the big deal of fixing it, I burn all my mp and convert at the lowest MP possible.
    And even then it typically pegs out lower then thundaga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griss View Post
    And even then it typically pegs out lower then thundaga
    Not usually, I see great numbers with Burst, pending low HP ofc. But even full HP Its better then Thundaga, not a by alot by a bit.
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    Damien Omega
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    It is sad though that a thundaga combo will out damage a burst combo with very low hp. Thundaga can do 1.6~2k np, but a burst lucky to get it to 1.2~1.6k. This is suppose to be the supreme move of blm i would expect it to do more then a ga spell.
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    Ryans Tardis
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    I'd have preferred that blm had received Manafont (Ex: Free spell cost for 20 seconds).

    If I had my way, Sleep would replace Resonance in terms of level obtained (I know its useful in certain situations but they are few and far between), Sleepga would be obtained at lvl 42 by thm, and Burst would be a 5 minute cooldown that is obtained in place of Sleepga in the blm quest line. That would leave Manafont to be obtained from the last blm quest and it wouldn't take away a pretty nifty spell from blm.

    I'd also make Burst cost twice as much as the current MP cost.
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    Emmalynn Tsukiko
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    I have used it at Low HP. But in comparison to the usefulness of other fifteen minute abilities; it seems very underwhelming. It much also be said that other jobs don't have to use it as part of a combo involving convert (which can be very dangerous during Primal Fights) to attain a decent amount of use out of the ability.

    Sorry about missing Bard. Knew there was something I was forgetting. Though I had that in mind while writing.
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    Tyler Wevlum
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    Whilst I do think burst is a bit pathetic as a 15minute ability, I am lolling at the idea of BLM needing a boost of any kind. I do agree sleep should be gained earlier as well as war drum and other aoe hate tools because low level grouping is such an unorganized mess at the moment...that said high level grouping is war aoe->fira.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wevlum View Post
    Whilst I do think burst is a bit pathetic as a 15minute ability, I am lolling at the idea of BLM needing a boost of any kind. I do agree sleep should be gained earlier as well as war drum and other aoe hate tools because low level grouping is such an unorganized mess at the moment...that said high level grouping is war aoe->fira.
    I have to agree that BLM is, and can be very powerful, especially when stacked >.> *Cough* Garuda.

    However, I feel as a two hour, the ability needs changed a little bit. In order to compliment spell casting, rather than just being a single spell cast.
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    There have been other threads asking for a re-examination of Dragonfire Dive and Burst. Both received no comment from the devs. Dragonfire dive should at the very least have the elemental aspect removed. There's nothing worse then seeing your dragonfire dive get completely resisted or end up barely doing any more dmg then you can do with ring of talons. The same can be said about Burst. You can do similar if not more damage with thundaga.

    It just doesn't seem right that you put a spell/WS on a long CD timer and then have it be no more effective then the regular abilities you can use a large number of times between CDs on your 15 min. ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radav View Post
    There have been other threads asking for a re-examination of Dragonfire Dive and Burst. Both received no comment from the devs. Dragonfire dive should at the very least have the elemental aspect removed. There's nothing worse then seeing your dragonfire dive get completely resisted or end up barely doing any more dmg then you can do with ring of talons. The same can be said about Burst. You can do similar if not more damage with thundaga.

    It just doesn't seem right that you put a spell/WS on a long CD timer and then have it be no more effective then the regular abilities you can use a large number of times between CDs on your 15 min. ability.
    Couldn't agree more. As previously stated, other abilities compliment job rolls and provide huge sways in battle. Where as both Dragoon and Black Mage are one off use that, as you stated yourself, are no more useful than other abilities.
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    Yes they are underwhelming. Though they are certainly strong for the 200mp tthey cost. 100mp wwith excruicate with the possibily of getting 5600mp back. This could be a lifessaver when u have.no mp and needs to cast sleepga.
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