Will there ever be true raiding content in FF14?

[Kandraxx]

First things first, there’s enough stuff to keep me interested regardless and it’s not like there would be any other MMO atm that’d be worth to throw your money on.

But I was kind of disappointed when I found out that the 24-man raids are basically only random-matching theme park rides where you zerg down bosses totally uncoordinated for the most part. Because I was under the impression that those are along the lines of WoW.

So the “raid” content in FF is 8-player trials in a circle arena, where you menu-teleport to. And it’s basically only dozens and dozens of Heigans (it’s a movement heavy raid boss from WoW). For the most part all bosses are about movement and movement only while hammering down your dps rotation, there are no gimmick fights (mostly due to everything just being a tiny and empty circle or square arena), no real mechanics, no adds to manage, no interrupts needed, no buff/debuff mechanics, no special assignments for players and even in the few cases where there’s an attempt at creating those it’s a super watered down version from what your used to as WoW player.

For the most part “raids” here seem to be: stand here run there, circle aoe, donut aoe, cross aoe, oh this goes off in this direction, run over there, look at the symbol/color/whatever it tells you where to run. I mean to be fair, you have to keep this game playable on PlayStations because Japan is the domestic market and most Japanese players are likely on console but, it’d be cool if there would be real raids and bosses at some point.

[Theox]

Oh poor soul who hasn't encountered those bosses who force you to multiply numbers in order to not die. Oh how I hate those math bosses...

[Nafreyu]

Have you tried queueing beyond anything but Roulettes?

[Jin-]

Hope so but I would not hold my breath. Square likes to do everything the same while changing only the music and colours

[EverQuest]

Raids will be flowing the 8 man format with 4 each tier. Raids and ultimates are far more then just moving around generally.

The game has a 48 man raid DR savage as well as the 56 eureka one.

Alliance Raids and such 3 per xpac 24 man.

Complete all the content and come back again.

[Roda]

The closest they've come is delubrum reginae savage.

I long for the day when SE branches out beyond "Boss plopped in a square or circle flat arena" as core raiding content. :T

[FrogDog]

Unfortunately 24man raids of higher difficulty seem to be pretty much off their radar entirely. I'm paraphrasing but it was fairly recently where Yoshi P talked about it and lumped it into the most casual content this game has to offer, saying that it's designed so that not everyone needs to know what they're doing.

I've always liked the two extremes of group content in MMOs, the single group stuff and the largest raids. The thing is, in XIV, these are relegated to being the easiest forms of PvE and they have no interest in giving us harder versions. Actually dungeons seem to be mostly getting phased out for all intents and purposes as they design them for the TRUST system and we get less of them now.

[Ravor]

They tried to do that with delibrium reginae savage, every single player have certain responsibility or it will be almost instant wipe and the death of a single dps will meant higher chance of enrage and you cant ress people unless with special limited skill by healer with chance to fail, and the number of participant is very low and most player base wont bother with that, they did try to make real raid, its so hard that even the access to the raid required you to finish lvl 70 alliance raid, then the entire bozja leveling and storyline including 2 raid, and you have to prepare special skill, item and buff and other 47 people with the same commitment, most people keep saying, the game have no real raid etc, well SE tried making that and little of the player base actually care but they still make it which says a lot, i would probably do more of this delibrium savage savage again once the discord group back active, i just love doing the preparation stuff, the feeling of if you screw up, you also screwed everyone else, its good stress to have once in a while

[Ririta]

Did you look into Coil and Alex savage? They seem to have some of what you want.

You had to be marked for Rot rotations, ride a gobbie vehicle to pull bombs away from people, become animals, slow down adds with CC, and so on.

But yeah, that's old content, FFXIV moved on from that.

[VelKallor]

But I was kind of disappointed when I found out that the 24-man raids are basically only random-matching theme park rides where you zerg down bosses totally uncoordinated for the most part.

..you never did the Nier raids..did you.