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  1. #21
    Player
    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    FFXIV reddit doesn't tolerate any criticism, even the most polite and constructive possible.
    You can just question something, and you'll get downvoted to hell and beck.
    Use FFXIVDiscussion reddit, it's where you will find serious talk players, raiders, etc.

    FFXIV reddit is full of clowns.
    (17)
    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  2. #22
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Limsa-Lominsa
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    Character
    Kalaam Nozalys
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    Use FFXIVDiscussion reddit, it's where you will find serious talk players, raiders, etc.

    FFXIV reddit is full of clowns.
    I wasn't aware of that reddit, thanks.
    Main subreddit is good for fanart sharing and all, but it enforces a form of toxic positivity that doesn't help at all
    (8)

  3. #23
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    Mekhana's Avatar
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    Let me switch to Limsa
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    Character
    Mekhana Souther
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Don't worry I'm sure DRK dmg will be nerfed to the grave and they are making our skills worse too.

    The current state is affairs is just due to a typo/prank from the developers on each other.
    (1)

  4. #24
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    Zordrage's Avatar
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    Character
    Zordiark Darkeater
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekhana View Post
    Don't worry I'm sure DRK dmg will be nerfed to the grave and they are making our skills worse too.

    The current state is affairs is just due to a typo/prank from the developers on each other.
    Yeah cant wait to not just not be able to survive anything on my own as a tank but have the dmg of a healer...
    Fun times are coming.
    (2)
    Limited and Exclusive content that gets removed from game is Wasted Content and Developer time in the long run.
    Change my Mind. (You can't)

  5. #25
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    Hammerhorn's Avatar
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    Character
    Hammerhorn Oathsworn
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    I don’t think it’s acceptable that another player in my group will have to make up 500 dps just because I didn’t want to play DRK. That’s 300,000 damage over the course of a 10min fight. Tanks should be closer to dead even then this not a nerf, a balance. Most of you have forgot how PLD was shunned in Heavensward when DRK came out because lack of dps to beat enrage timers vs Drk. As we get more gear this 500 will spread to 700 or 1000 in difference. PLD has no mitigation tool in its kit that will make up for this. I agree DRK needs a rework living dead sucks it’s bad design. People who crab fish leave their catches in 5 gal buckets with not lid on top, seems wrong wont the crabs get out and run away? No as each crab clambers over the other to reach the top another crab grabs their little legs and throws them to the bottom of the bucket. We in the tank community LETS NOT BE CRABS IN A BUCKET!!!
    (12)

  6. #26
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    Lyth's Avatar
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    Meracydia
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    Character
    Lythia Norvaine
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    There are plenty of things that are unacceptable. Having an invuln that is objectively worse both in design and function than every other tank that arbitrarily kills you is unacceptable. Having latency issues on Blood Weapon's execution being systematically dismissed is unnacceptable. Having DRK consistently lag behind PLD and WAR in raidwide mitigation for three expansions running is unacceptable. Having concerns be systemically neglected for five years without response or explanation despite an overwhelmingly negative community response with players leaving the job in droves is unacceptable. And now that DRK is finally achieving something positive with its damage output after being on the bottom end for two expansions running, PLD players like yourself can't stand it, despite excelling in pretty much every other area of tanking? My heart bleeds for you.

    What we presently have is a complete band-aid fix just to prevent the few remaining DRK players from leaving the job. The dev team would have to be beyond daft to buff PLD while ignoring these broader and bigger problems.
    (13)

  7. #27
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    Hammerhorn's Avatar
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    Hammerhorn Oathsworn
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    My heart bleeds for you.
    Crabs in a bucket, surrounded by salted earth SMH.
    (11)

  8. #28
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Character
    Jira Dal'riata
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    I’ve said this a thousand times in a thousand outlets and I’ll say it again

    I
    DONT
    CARE
    ABOUT
    NUMBERS

    In core content numbers hardly do shit besides make the instances shorter, and EX nothing is underpowered to Alienate other jobs. I will always prefer the tangible kit. And speaking of DRK has the worst one despite its “numbers” being better under certain conditions
    (19)

  9. #29
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Character
    Blackiron Tarkus
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    Edge of Shadow = 460 potency, 3k MP, 1 sec recast, 10% dmg up

    Fell Cleave = 460 potency, tied to gcd, 50 gauge

    Nuff said...

    Its kind of expected though I fear they might use this fact that DRK is a high dmg tank to not address its defensive cds. Poster boy curse doesn't really apply to PLD since it is mechanically sound for the most part. Just needs potency buffs. DRK ShB led us down a dark road. MNK in SB forced a rework in EW. PLD fared far better than these two.
    (2)

  10. #30
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    Visanis's Avatar
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    Character
    Visanis Mitsuna
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I remember in 4.0 when DRK was a solid 300-400 dps behind WAR and PLD and back then it was perfectly okay with everyone. Why is it now not okay that they are ahead by a similar margin in 6.0?

    The double standards when it comes to damage numbers is laughable.
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