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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90

    Is Leveling Roulette (and other Roulettes) giving subpar EXP as opposed to before?

    Lvl 80 value: 2.2 Million out of 6 million for level. That's 36.66% of a level. A level appropriate dungeon would give you approx 33% of your next level.

    So you're doing possibly outdated, synced content for maybe 3% extra exp? Also, Leveling Roulette, before Endwalker, would give more than that. Almost 50% of a level.

    MSQ? Approximately 50% of a level for Prae as opposed to ~75% of a level. Castrum gave 1.8 million at lvl 80. That's less than leveling roulette.

    Normal Raid Roulette gave a measly 225K at lvl 80. THAT IS LESS THAN A FATE.

    Something is off with every single roulette experience value.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 12-15-2021 at 10:34 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Bsrking5's Avatar
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I'd ask you if you have proof. Im not doing MSQ just to check exp and i don't remember how much i got. I just know i did it for poetics. The only thing i do know is that just doing the endwalker msq as a fresh 80 is enough to hit 90. The exp might be off balance for everything else
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Once you get into the last 10 levels for a job, the percentage of XP earned toward your next level from a roulette has always dropped dramatically. It would be about 25-30% for Castrum and 40-50% for Praetorium. Sounds like that didn't change. Leveling roulette I can't say because I wouldn't use it as often so never paid attention, and the other roulettes I wouldn't use for leveling unless I was keeping a friend company.

    The armory bonus (for leveling a job lower than your highest level job) also takes a dive from 100% to 50% when you hit 80. It would make sense for roulettes to have the same decrease.
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    Bjorn Kobito
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    While it does feel like less, level 80 I noticed is just especially cursed. The values get slightly better when you're 81+ for whatever reason. I booked and leveled all jobs from 70-80 for ShB in like 4 weeks off of dailies alone so it's definitely noticeably slower given I'm only like 4 jobs at 90 atm.
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjorn-Kobito View Post
    While it does feel like less, level 80 I noticed is just especially cursed. The values get slightly better when you're 81+ for whatever reason. I booked and leveled all jobs from 70-80 for ShB in like 4 weeks off of dailies alone so it's definitely noticeably slower given I'm only like 4 jobs at 90 atm.
    x0-x1 is always cursed when you don't have MSQ to push you through (on combat jobs.) You're excited to get to the next expansion content, but the only stuff available is comparatively slow old-expansion content.
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    Tavion Melindor
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Overcoming boredom for expansion entry level to +1... Praetorium(if the roulette tosses you into) always worked for me.
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    It's Trigger
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I did a leveling roulette last night at 82 and had the same experience. Fates is the fastest way to grind levels rn imo, especially with the large groups of people that are currently doing them. No queue times and fast returns. As long as the surged population holds and dungeon queues are congested it's probably your best option if you ask me.
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Lvl 80 value: 2.2 Million out of 6 million for level. That's 36.66% of a level. A level appropriate dungeon would give you approx 33% of your next level.

    So you're doing possibly outdated, synced content for maybe 3% extra exp? Also, Leveling Roulette, before Endwalker, would give more than that. Almost 50% of a level.

    MSQ? Approximately 50% of a level for Prae as opposed to ~75% of a level. Castrum gave 1.8 million at lvl 80. That's less than leveling roulette.

    Normal Raid Roulette gave a measly 225K at lvl 80. THAT IS LESS THAN A FATE.

    Something is off with every single roulette experience value.
    It's a supplement!
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    MintnHoney's Avatar
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Lvl 80 value: 2.2 Million out of 6 million for level. That's 36.66% of a level. A level appropriate dungeon would give you approx 33% of your next level.

    So you're doing possibly outdated, synced content for maybe 3% extra exp? Also, Leveling Roulette, before Endwalker, would give more than that. Almost 50% of a level.

    MSQ? Approximately 50% of a level for Prae as opposed to ~75% of a level. Castrum gave 1.8 million at lvl 80. That's less than leveling roulette.

    Normal Raid Roulette gave a measly 225K at lvl 80. THAT IS LESS THAN A FATE.

    Something is off with every single roulette experience value.
    The bonus for a Frontline Roulette is generally more significant than a leveling roulette, and it feels like a bargain in time spent.
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    Nyarlha's Avatar
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    Nyarlha Moonstalker
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Getting a level relevant dungeon for leveling roulette and barely getting 40% of a level definitely feels like a slap in the face.

    That's what I got when I ended up in the lvl81 dungeon at lvl81 a few days ago.

    Also, I'm quitting every single time I get Castrum. I don't care about the penalty, Castrum is just not worth it compared to Praet.

    Frontline roulette definitely is juicy though.
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