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    Quote Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts View Post
    My point? People don't know this definitively. And you know the saying about when you "assume".
    First of all, the point of this thread is to highlight a potential problem - That there are players that are afk'ing in private places.

    This is not a court that we have to provide definitive proof, and even in court, you can be sentenced by strong circumstantial evidence.

    I have people in my FC defending third-party programs to avoid AFK'ing and someone in my friend-list staying inside his Barracks for hours and hours, but you want your ''definitive proof''.

    That is why your question is utterly pointless.
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    Last edited by Xrystofer; 12-15-2021 at 08:31 AM.

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    Diosthenes Fara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    First of all, the point of this thread is to highlight a potential problem - That there are players that are afk'ing in private places.

    This is not a court that we have to provide definitive proof, and even in court, you can be sentenced by strong circumstantial evidence.

    I have people in my FC defending third-party programs to avoid AFK'ing and someone in my friend-list staying inside his Barracks for hours and hours, but you want your ''definitive proof''.

    That is why your question is utterly pointless.
    Not only this, but again, Occam's Razor.

    Why are the housing instances clogged during non-peak hours? The simplest answer is usually the correct one.
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    Though they would gain something being IN their house, opposed to being somewhere else. That gain is them being able to use their bot/macros in privacy, without the chance of people reporting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    Right, but people dodging AFK would have nothing to gain from being in their house vs. being anywhere else. So isn't it just as likely to be some activity that's actually related to housing that's causing tons of people to be in there?
    Sure they do. Less visibility and chance at detection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts View Post
    And how do you know, definitively, that is the cause?
    Occam's Razor. If you have a better explanation, would love to hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    Right, but people dodging AFK would have nothing to gain from being in their house vs. being anywhere else. So isn't it just as likely to be some activity that's actually related to housing that's causing tons of people to be in there?
    They dodge the risk of doing so in a public area and getting reported by other players for suspected automation. The people breaking ToS aren't typically going to do it in broad daylight.
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    Quote Originally Posted by HazyAssaulter View Post
    They dodge the risk of doing so in a public area and getting reported by other players for suspected automation. The people breaking ToS aren't typically going to do it in broad daylight.
    I guess that could be right. I mean, you can't actually report people for anything other than RMT activity and nothing's going to happen to them anyway, but I could buy that they might be operating by this logic. I can't think of any activity that would be popular inside houses at expansion launch anyway, I just couldn't think of a reason the dodgers would go there specifically either.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    I guess that could be right. I mean, you can't actually report people for anything other than RMT activity and nothing's going to happen to them anyway, but I could buy that they might be operating by this logic. I can't think of any activity that would be popular inside houses at expansion launch anyway, I just couldn't think of a reason the dodgers would go there specifically either.
    You cant right click and report except for rmt. You can still fill out an actual report for cheating through the help desk in game.
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    Alright, looks like we need to have random server restarts, afk kick timer set to 2 minutes, and a 3 hour playtime allotment. After this, the problems should be solved!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You cant right click and report except for rmt. You can still fill out an actual report for cheating through the help desk in game.
    You'd still have to actively monitor player search like some kind of stalker, and make a flimsy report guessing they're automating in your report.

    While the alternative of reporting someone who has been standing in the exact same spot in limsa for 14 hours probably isn't going to do something, that AFK bypasser is going to get a lot more reports than someone in a private residence.
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