People advertising they're running Parsers

[Rinhi]

They're actually not wrong.

Most groups you apply to for serious content will immediately look at your FFLogs, as it's seen as a resume of both your demonstrated clears and a metric of your ability. There's arguments as to whether or not DPS is useful metric, but I can emphatically tell you that FFLogs is a significant part of raiding culture in this game and is a huge factor in public perception of the players within that culture. Often people with hidden logs are red-flagged, but not everyone with hidden logs is bad. I know someone in the top 1% of their job who hides their logs.

they're not wrong, but they're also not correct, as you've said yourself
one of my friends is a god gamer yet their logs are completely hidden, simple because they don't want to be listed on that website
otherwise I'm not disagreeing with your post in any way, since you're correct!

[MsQi]

I mean fflogs is essentially a public record, and that's a okay. It's when you hide log that you draw suspicion.

FFlogs has no right to make those records public. Any information regarding FFXIV characters is the property of SE. They allow others to use that information as long as it doesn't become a problem. They will side with the player when someone uses that information without the player's permission especially when used for calling out their in game performance publicly. This is why FFlogs has to hide informations if the player wants it to be hidden.

It's like you are saying an apartment resident is suspicious for locking their own door.

[LittleImp]

It's like you are saying an apartment resident is suspicious for locking their own door.

Apartments aren't a cooperative activity with stakes that can be scored quantitively... at least not without a huge stretch in logic. It would be reasonable to be suspicious of someone opting to intentionally hide their score in a video game, particularly if you were interested in trying to put an effective team together.

While I definitely think exceptions exist, speaking from my own experience with hundreds of hours pug raiding in this game (and lots of time recruiting for statics), the overwhelming majority of people who opt to hide their logs are not doing so because they're embarrassed about how amazing they are at the game. I try to give these types a chance because of the few exceptions I've seen, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't end up regretting it 99% of the time.

Of the 'good' examples I know, where the player had hidden their logs despite being highly skilled, most of them were highly unstable people that struggled with self-image issues around their parses, and would often get extremely toxic or upset if something in a run wasn't going their way. I find a similar mentality haunts the types of 'bad' players that opt to hide them as well; They're usually irrationally afraid of how people will judge them based on their logs. In some cases, I've even had people lash out at me during recruitment conversations when I've asked them to unhide their logs for me to take a look.

Anyway, the moral of the story is, even if it's not a performance red-flag, hidden logs are often a mentality red-flag.

[Rinhi]

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...and I highly doubt Shurrikhan is one those that's hiding it for bad reasons, judging by their knowledge of stuff, tbh

[VelKallor]

Anyway, the moral of the story is, even if it's not a performance red-flag, hidden logs are often a mentality red-flag.

Yeah.

its called none of your business.

[VelKallor]

Either the mitigation is necessary to your survival, or it's used to save on resource expenditure elsewhere (Healer GCDs being a notable one). If it isn't doing either of those things in a way that creates a net rDPS gain over taking another job, it can be argued that it's not valuable.

So you are dismissing OUT OF HAND the raid utility that support classes bring to the table?

[Azuri]

Yeah.

its called none of your business.

If I'm recruting someone for my static, it is indeed very much all of my business to make sure they will be a good fit.

[VelKallor]

If I'm recruting someone for my static, it is indeed very much all of my business to make sure they will be a good fit.

On the unlikely chance I will EVER want to "join " your static ( chances of that are more or less 0.000000000000001% ) I will let you know. Until that time, whats in those logs is none of your concern ( even if said logs exist ), which then begs the question

Do you go poking into peoples logs when they HAVENT ever applied?

Ref:

goes to fflogs to search for tani shirai

404 not found

right.....

[Azuri]

On the unlikely chance I will EVER want to "join " your static ( chances of that are more or less 0.000000000000001% ) I will let you know. Until that time, whats in those logs is none of your concern ( even if said logs exist ), which then begs the question

Do you go poking into peoples logs when they HAVENT ever applied?

Ref:

Yes, I quite often do. Be it from idle curiosity or as a way to acquire better understanding about a person I am interacting with. It is of course your complete right to request fflogs to hide anything related to your characters. In the same way it is my right to make whatever conclusions I deem necessary from being aware about that fact.

[VelKallor]

Yes, I quite often do. Be it from idle curiosity or as a way to acquire better understanding about a person I am interacting with. It is of course your complete right to request fflogs to hide anything related to your characters. In the same way it is my right to make whatever conclusions I deem necessary from being aware about that fact.

So youve just admitted to poking your nose into the logs of people who have never applied for your static, and never intend to, and as they have those logs private because it is , in fact, none of your business, you dont like it.

Ever hear the word "privacy"?

If they have never applied to your static and never intend to....how is whats in those logs ANY of your concern?

It isnt..is it?