Daily server resets are one of the only things that will have any significant effect

[HyperSMB]

I am all for server resets. Always have been.

[ForteNightshade]

They could announce it like an hour in advance, that ought to be enough time to prepare, and I don't think any cutscenes are that long.

Whether or not it would help any, I don't know. I do know there are a lot of people abusing automation to stay logged in.

Even an hour would be hollow when you're spent more than double than in a queue and will now have to compete with well over 10,000 people all trying to log in at once.

Not to mention, once Savage releases they'd have to avoid evening hours entirely for a forced shutdown. Otherwise, it'll completely destroy static schedules, which the dev team has readily acknowledged they want to avoid as they've said on several occasions they don't want to impede the World Race.

Please explain to me how server resets are going to help the 6k queues during prime time.

OH wait, they won't.

Exactly. Unlike Stormblood, not only are the population numbers significantly higher far more people are either working from home or can more readily remote into their PCs from work. They'll just jump back into the queue and go right back to AFK-ing with whatever macro or program they have that dodges the AFK timer.

[Imora]

Please explain to me how server resets are going to help the 6k queues during prime time.

OH wait, they won't.

[Ayuhra]

My main takeaway from the OP was people are already BiS with the Extremes on farm. If I miss the window on learning parties for an entire expansion again... I'll... I'll...

Well I won't be doing Extremes again, I guess.

I feel like a kick to boot the bot AFKers is probably warranted, especially if they can somehow target player housing but I'm not sure how they can do that without kicking instance servers in general, I don't know their setup.

At the same time I sympathize with SOME of the botters. I can never support botting while at work or sleeping or spending a day out doing errands but I can almost understand doing it if you will be gone for 45 minutes, just long enough to get kicked by the timer but that kick will put you in a queue for waaay longer than you were gone for.

(Probably also worth mentioning that after the kick there will still be a massive queue as all live players mass log on again)

[Eriane_Elis]

You don't have to reset the entire servers, just the residential districts. People are botting inside locked houses/rooms to cheat the queue and it's a LOT of them.


sorry it's so big, I don't know how to resize it. this went on for 5 minutes...

I go to my house to craft and decorate. Crafting is how I make the majority of my income. I spent over a year's worth of sub just to keep my house even though I wasn't logging in more than once a month (to prevent demolition). To take away my house would be a big slap to the face.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

So your solution to fixing the queue is to have everyone storm the queue at the same time? Do you really think afkers are that big of a problem? They're not helping, sure, but for every afker this punishes it catches more than ten legitimate players who will have to play Login Queue Ultimate a SECOND time.

[Kes13a]

What's happening is people are logging themselves in before they go to work, using their afk bot mod or crafting bot or whatever they have set up, and then coming home to a still logged in character.

Even if the reset was at a known time, as long as it was during the daytime hours, not everyone who is doing this will be capable of using remote desktop to log themselves back in.

personally, at this point if someone is afk botting, or using some other work around and its provable.. since they arent playing the game anyway, a nice week long vacation from FFxiv should be in order...

[Chooty]

Even an hour would be hollow when you're spent more than double than in a queue and will now have to compete with well over 10,000 people all trying to log in at once.

The idea would be to get rid of AFKers before the queues start, so probably they would do the reset around noon. I don't think most people are suggesting they do a server reset at 6 pm, and that's not what they did in Stormblood.

[HyoMinPark]

They could announce it like an hour in advance, that ought to be enough time to prepare, and I don't think any cutscenes are that long.

Whether or not it would help any, I don't know. I do know there are a lot of people abusing automation to stay logged in.

If you aren’t in game but waiting in a queue, you aren’t going to see an announcement for it, short of spam-refreshing the Lodestone.

And this still doesn’t change the very likelihood of the unstable lobby server borking out when tens of thousands of players all try to immediately relog at the same time.

The idea would be to get rid of AFKers before the queues start, so probably they would do the reset around noon. I don't think most people are suggesting they do a server reset at 6 pm, and that's not what they did in Stormblood.

They did the force logoffs around 2pm/3pm EST for SB. Queues on NA start hitting the thousands around then as people trickle in from school. By 4pm/5pm EST, they’re already 4,000+ for most Aether servers.

That said, it wouldn’t really address the queue issues on the weekends, where you’re already getting 4,000+ queues around 12pm PST. And again, the integrity of the lobby server is a valid concern. It’s clear they can’t handle the congestion now.

I go to my house to craft and decorate. Crafting is how I make the majority of my income. I spent over a year's worth of sub just to keep my house even though I wasn't logging in more than once a month (to prevent demolition). To take away my house would be a big slap to the face.

Demolition is suspended right now. You don’t need to worry about losing your house.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

If you aren’t in game but waiting in a queue, you aren’t going to see an announcement for it, short of spam-refreshing the Lodestone.

They could probably close connections to the server without disrupting the login queue. Would kick out everyone on the server but not mess things up for people who were waiting to log on.