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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    No, of course you won't. You'll get on your high horse and think you're right, despite not having a single valid point or counter point.
    you either bot or you don't gather/craft...or you are incredibly naive. hope your phd keeps you warm at night when people stop playing this game.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themule View Post
    you either bot or you don't gather/craft...or you are incredibly naive. hope your phd keeps you warm at night when people stop playing this game.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_logical_fallacies

    Can YOU count how many you just made?
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    No, of course you won't. You'll get on your high horse and think you're right, despite not having a single valid point or counter point.
    Wolfie, Wolfie, Wolfie!
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_logical_fallacies

    Can YOU count how many you just made?
    so you bot? or...i guess i don't get it ;-)
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themule View Post
    i guess i don't get it ;-)
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    "A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself."
    -Milton Friedman-

    "There can be economy only where there is efficiency."
    -Benjamin Disraeli-

    "People want economy and they will pay any price to get it."
    -Lee Iacocca-

    "People do not understand what a great revenue economy is."
    -Marcus Tullius Cicero-

    "Economy does not lie in sparing money, but in spending it wisely."
    -Thomas Huxley-

    "My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to 99 cents a can. That's almost $7.00 in dog money."
    -Joe Weinstein-

    Just some quotes to make you think (and maybe make you smile)
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  7. #67
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    In the end, I just want a system in place that promotes an economy that is going to make people want to participate. At present I see things getting exponentially worse. You can say what you want about economic theory, but the goal right now is to attract people to this game. I've made the current system work for me, thats not the point. I want people to love this game so I can continue to play it. Unchecked botting, a bogged down UI etc tells people that they should play something else. I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm just a player who is finding less and less of an incentive to craft and gather in this game every day and I think there are some very real and fixable reasons why. If you disagree and think things are just as they should be, so be it.
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    Last edited by Themule; 05-09-2012 at 09:53 AM.

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    I agree with you there, only because while their stance on bots and automation is a big fat "NO", they're not enforcing that policy as well as they should be. The less risky players don't do it out of fear of punishment, yet the ones that do it don't get punished enough. It makes for an economy that's hard to get into, which is a problem.

    Whatever they decide to do with bots and automation in the end, they need to stick to their guns. Ambiguity is bad.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I agree with you there, only because while their stance on bots and automation is a big fat "NO", they're not enforcing that policy as well as they should be. The less risky players don't do it out of fear of punishment, yet the ones that do it don't get punished enough. It makes for an economy that's hard to get into, which is a problem.

    Whatever they decide to do with bots and automation in the end, they need to stick to their guns. Ambiguity is bad.
    totally agree. well said. /hug :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themule View Post
    In the end, I just want a system in place that promotes an economy that is going to make people want to participate. At present I see things getting exponentially worse. You can say what you want about economic theory, but the goal right now is to attract people to this game. I've made the current system work for me, thats not the point. I want people to love this game so I can continue to play it. Unchecked botting, a bogged down UI etc tells people that they should play something else. I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm just a player who is finding less and less of an incentive to craft and gather in this game every day and I think there are some very real and fixable reasons why. If you disagree and think things are just as they should be, so be it.
    Does the economy really pull people into a game?
    Im not asking to be a douche. I really want to know? I know we can't speak for everyone, but do you think many people are drawn in by the economy?
    Do you think these people look for simplicity or a more in-depth, feature-rich, goal-oriented economy?
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