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  1. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Prices going down!??? Whaatrrt? A food cost 14-20k! And I see weapons costing millions. Where are prices going down!????
    Depends on the food and the weapons. Simple supply and demand rules apply at all times. Right now they might be high because there are very few but just watch when there are 50-100 of that weapon. Wait till there are 100 stacks of that food up for grabs. It is all a matter of time before the prices will fall and stabilize or crash completely. The undercutting wars have just begun and there has and always will be an ebb and flow to them. People are going to gouge for now with all the new toys out to experiment with but at the end of the day all this stuff you see right now will be much cheaper 3 months from now. If food is 14-20k a piece on your server then you should consider taking up culinary. Not to make money so much but to eliminate the cost of that food. Double edged sword this crafting business is and you can cut right back if you simply learn to do it yourself.
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  2. #252
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themule View Post
    I don't understand how people talk about a Free Market like it should actually exist in MMO's. A free market would tell me that if I can find a bot to do what other players spend hours doing, its the other people who are the suckers. If SE wanted a free market, they would allow 3rd party programs and tell people who can't code or purchase their own bot to suck it. We want a controlled economy that encourages people to do the work instead of cheating. I don't care what your real life opinion is on Economics, this is not the real world. We want people to actually enjoy doing work enough to pay a monthly fee and in turn help this game survive.
    Of all the ridiculous posts in this thread, this one is by far filled with the most fail.
    Yes.... we.... can....
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  3. #253
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortikhan View Post
    Depends on the food and the weapons. Simple supply and demand rules apply at all times. Right now they might be high because there are very few but just watch when there are 50-100 of that weapon. Wait till there are 100 stacks of that food up for grabs. It is all a matter of time before the prices will fall and stabilize or crash completely. The undercutting wars have just begun and there has and always will be an ebb and flow to them. People are going to gouge for now with all the new toys out to experiment with but at the end of the day all this stuff you see right now will be much cheaper 3 months from now. If food is 14-20k a piece on your server then you should consider taking up culinary. Not to make money so much but to eliminate the cost of that food. Double edged sword this crafting business is and you can cut right back if you simply learn to do it yourself.
    I have all classes craft lvl. Up. In two chars. I have no cost because I farm my own stuff. My point is the prices never been so high. Any item costs your soul. And I'm talking about regular items. High demand items are into tens of millions. Materia? Lol forget. Unless you want tO pay millions too. Before server merge, prices were down. Now, instead of going down, it's sky high. And it's not because lack of items. It looks like everyone is charging crazy prices. You can't even find items +1, because the list show only 10 first low priced items, which are high as hell. Basically you have to check all bazaars to find an item +1. WelcOme back to beta!
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  4. #254
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    RE: Signature

    Is Northman still around? Please god say yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    RE: Signature

    Is Northman still around? Please god say yes.
    Lmao. I've seen him around forums
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  6. #256
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfire View Post
    That's a standard practice of mine. It saves the buyer a gil and reduces tax by one too. Strangely some people appear to not be content with that and would prefer for someone to come along later and place the item up for one gil more so they can purchase that instead and claim the other as undercutting by a gil.

    Now there's a spin on the perspective.
    Hah... What a moron. I just realized by stating that you do not support one-gil undercuts and will therefore buy the one priced a gil above will more likely save you money in the end, whether you lie or truly do. It's a trick for buyers to drag down prices.

    Something could be selling consistently for 1,000 over a period of time and seller A may decide to put the item up for 900. Seller B and C come along and set it for 850, so seller A changes the price to 849. A sharp buyer chooses to purchase 850s at varying intervals. Seller A sees this then sets his price to 800 instead, believing one gil under isn't supported by the community (even though it's just one guy), and then that smart shopper purchases those. Or some of those--depends on his aim.

    And from this point seller A now has a mentality to drop the price a decent amount, so future prices will be cheaper. Score one for the buyers.

    I find that trick cool in a way, but I'd despise the spreading of lies to pull it off. One, I hate lies, and two, I'd rather see it skillfully done.
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    Last edited by Soulfire; 05-17-2012 at 06:27 AM.

  7. #257
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoosterAgathos View Post
    honestly is there nothing ffxiv players wont complain about?

    Its a player created economy We have no one to blame but ourselves.. (if you think there is a problem.)

    I say it again. If someone is undercutting you its because your items are over priced. If someone can sell it for less and still make a profit then you are operating on pure greed.
    I use bold to show I know what I'm talking about

    DUBS-OLL-YOU
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  8. #258
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    Just look at Amazon or other online stores. Undercutting champion(s).
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